The Metaphysical Roots of Disease – Ep #050 Interview With Dr. Emma Mardlin

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Welcome to the Soul Science Nutrition Podcast, where you’ll discover that when it comes to your health, you’re so much more powerful than you’ve been led to believe. And now your host, she’s a holistic nutrition and lifestyle coach, chef author, and Yogi, Christine Okezie. Hello.

Christine Okezie (22s):
Hello and welcome to the Soul Science Nutrition Podcast I’m Christine Okezie. Thanks so much for tuning in today. So as many of you know, the essence of my podcast message is an approach to our unwanted symptoms, habits. And dis-ease based on addressing root cause and fundamentally root cause means understanding that health is an integrated system of body, mind, and spirit, because although dis-ease is a physical manifestation, the root causes of most illnesses are not physical. The true root causes of almost every disease lies deep within ourselves.

Christine Okezie (1m 2s):
There are distinct emotional and mental patterns associated with every illness. We know this from the study of epigenetics, that the way you choose to use your mind and the way you respond to your outer world, plays a much bigger role than we’ve been led to believe when it comes to disease, we are not a victim of our genes. And while nutrition is a major health determinant, it’s far from the panacea it’s sometimes made out to be. We’ve all heard a lot about the stress and chronic disease connection, but to be clear, it’s not actually the stress in and of itself that will harm you.

Christine Okezie (1m 43s):
It’s the way you choose to process the stress that could hurt you or make you very sick. The body in essence is a mirror of our inner thoughts, emotions and belief. Literally every cell in your body is responding to the words you speak, the thoughts you think, and the emotions you feel. So repetitive modes of thinking and suppressing emotions like anger, shame, fear, resentment, create the conditions in our bodies for the physical manifestation of disease and dysfunction, negative thoughts and emotions produce toxic biochemical changes in the body that impair the body’s processes, the processes that are key, such as digestion, detoxification, nutrient assimilation, hormone production, brain function.

Christine Okezie (2m 39s):
These all get disrupted leading to a gradual and subtle deterioration in the whole body mind system. Now there’s a philosophy or a science called metaphysics; metaphysics examines the fundamental nature of reality in the aspect of disease metaphysics aligns with the approach of all indigenous natural systems of medicine, including Ayurveda and Traditional Chinese medicine. Metaphysics teaches that there are distinct emotional and mental factors that contribute to the manifestation of disease. It understands that consciousness plays a dominant role in our biology and because of that cultivating awareness and the ability to listen to our bodies is paramount to our health.

Christine Okezie (3m 30s):
Now today’s guest is a highly regarded expert in this field. She is Dr. Emma Mardlin or Dr. Em as she likes to be called, Dr. Em is the author of two amazing books: Mind, Body Medicine, Type One and Type Two, A Powerful Approach To Stopping Diabetes Once and For All and Out Of Your Comfort Zone, Breaking Boundaries For a Life Beyond Limits. In both of these amazing books, Dr. Em incorporates psychological, emotional and physical techniques for releasing the toxic emotions and mindset that hold us back. Dr.

Christine Okezie (4m 10s):
Em holds a PhD in psychotherapy and mind body medicine, and she integrates her metaphysical research work to reverse both psychological and physical health conditions. She is the founding partner of the Pinnacle Practice, a health and wellbeing clinic and training consultancy out of London. Dr. Em writes for numerous journals and media outlets, it’s lectures and provides professional training for public and private organizations throughout the UK and the United Arab Emirates. I just loved this dynamic and formative and inspiring conversation. And I know you will too. And once again, if you haven’t left a rating and review and you do like the show, I’d be grateful if you could do so.

Christine Okezie (4m 55s):
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Dr. Emma Mardlin (5m 12s):
Hello, Christine, thank you so much for having me on your wonderful, informative show

Christine Okezie (5m 18s):
All the way from the UK. We have you here. So this is lovely. You’re actually all the way from the Isle of Mann to be really specific, which is amazing.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (5m 27s):
It’s a beautiful island at the moment.

Christine Okezie (5m 31s):
So I would love if we could just start with, you know, sharing how your own personal health journey, you know, led you to do the work that you do now in the field of Mind Body Medicine.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (5m 44s):
Well, I’ve always been interested in natural health and healing, and I suppose it started as a passion and helping. And I was actually steered in a different way to go into studying law and becoming a barrister. But that wasn’t for me, that didn’t make me feel fulfilled and say, I wanted to, with having my own type one diabetes, always explore where we can go in terms of mind-body medicine and natural healing. And when I was young and when I was first diagnosed, I was told I would have to inject for the rest of my life.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (6m 28s):
And you know, that it wouldn’t, it would be a habits challenges. So we say having diabetes, I had things like I was told, I would always have diabetes that when my sugar levels went low, when I was a child in school, then rather than it being understood, even though I explained the situation, I was called a possess devil. So I just stood up and I explained to the rest of the class, what had happened with diabetes and the, they didn’t have to be problem. All I needed was some sugar at the time and it raised my blood sugar levels. It was fine.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (7m 8s):
And it was dealt with, and I’m really not the devil. I was moved down science classes because I was, I was told because I had diabetes. I wouldn’t be able to help with the top class I was in. So I wouldn’t have that. I thought that was disgusting as well to use the con almost against me or have it liking to intellectual levels. Yes. So basically I bought to take a test and I got moved back up into the top science set. So I proved myself and however it could have really knocked my confidence. So really the field that I made is really all about positive mental health, positive empowerment.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (7m 55s):
And I’m really looking at how we can use our mindset to make it in this bubble, that whatever health challenges you have, or even just generally what challenges you might have in life, that you can overcome them. And you can utilize your mind to effect positive, powerful changes within the body. When I was first diagnosed as a 10 year old child, and I was told you have it for the rest of your life and the, you need to reflect for the rest of your life, your life. There was some voice inside me that said, no, that said, I’ll find a cure.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (8m 38s):
I’ll heal myself. That was just something I th my parents weren’t really that way of thinking or puts anything like that in my mind, or it was just something I had a feeling deep inside. So that’s really where I imagine. And I guess I like to explore, and I like to research and push boundaries.

Christine Okezie (9m 0s):
I love it. I love it. You know, and that’s why your work and your approach to healing and the body really resonates on the show because the most fundamental thing you say it straight out in your book is you are your own best health expert.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (9m 14s):
And so

Christine Okezie (9m 17s):
You live that and you want to kind of share that cause that’s kind of missing these days. You know, we kind of feel very disempowered with a lot of the messaging that’s out there.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (9m 26s):
Oh, absolutely. And I think, especially at the moment in the time of all the Covid that everybody’s dealing with, it’s so important to take control of our own health and our own mindset and in terms of how we can protect ourself and build a power own immune system. Definitely. And I would say anybody’s that own experts in diabetes, for sure. But also in general, everybody’s their own expert in their own health, their own body and their own mind. We are in control of our mind and our body.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (10m 6s):
And once we can all accept that, then the changes of nominal, what we can all achieve and do shows like yourself is so, so important. Or the book mind, body diabetes is so important to get this message across that we can, you know, flourish when we do take charge of our own health. And, and it’s amazing what we can do in order to do that, despite the power of nature.

Christine Okezie (10m 37s):
absolutely. So tell us about, you know, what was the inspiration for mind, body diabetes, you know, walk us through and what does it mean? You talk about what does it mean stopping diabetes really kind of interesting and, and controversial frankly,

Dr. Emma Mardlin (10m 52s):
Show big, big questions. Yeah. I’m big.

Christine Okezie (10m 56s):
Yeah. We’ve got some time. Yeah.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (11m 3s):
Let me take, first of all, the inspiration for it was really, I did my PhD on reversing diabetes is how far we can take base and breaking boundaries and the fact that every single thought we have affect every single cell in the body. And I specialize in metaphysics, which just means the origins and the roots of health as you and your audience will never all too well. So it’s really exploring what diabetes is about and the research behind that and what specifically we need to do to put in motion, the reversal process, because it’s been known for a long time now that you reverse type two diabetes by diet, even though some people still don’t believe that that’s true, but I think you can take it so far to reverse type one diabetes.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (12m 4s):
And I use myself as the primary lab rat. So really the main motivation and I wanted to publish in a, in a book for everybody to be able to practice and my fine gangs and how you can do that really, and how you can then go to live for life and how diabetes never has to be a problem. Fascinating. So I guess by stopping it, what I mean is to somebody, how far they want to take it. So in terms of having the full way for full reversal or just stopping it in terms of it never having to be a problem in terms of holding you back or, you know, praising challenges in life.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (12m 47s):
So like what I went through as a child being moved on science sets, and even sometimes my friends would go out behind my back because they were scared that I would have a hypo and ruin the night, you know, bullying with diabetes, people would try, you know, people just having a lack of understanding, or like you said before, even by a teacher being called a possessed devil, just because my shoulders went like, so all those things never have to be a challenge. So that’s what I mean by stopping it and stopping it in terms of preventing complications or even if you already have complications and how we can actually stop those swell because they also have a metaphysical route.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (13m 34s):
So for example, I was told once I was going blind and that was it just there, there was no support, no nothing. It was just you’re, you know, you’re going blind, that’s it like, okay, it’s probably a big thing to deal with. So I went away, I was very, very depressed for a weekend. And then I thought suddenly, wow, I need to investigate this. I need to look at the metaphysics of it. You know, once I was in shock for the first part, because I didn’t really know what was going on, but then when I stopped and I looked at actually, what can I do about this? And this was before I did my PhD of the book, I thought I’m going to investigate, you know, kind of metaphysics and natural healing and health.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (14m 21s):
What was interesting, the, I, that was the particular problem was actually the metaphysical right side of the body, which is representative of men. And at the time I’d had a really unfortunate challenge with a male side of my family. And it was something that I didn’t want to see, and it was quite a big trauma and I felt wow. And once I felt about that, that resonated my eyes cleared up. And I supported that also with natural healing. So eating blood kind of berries and anything black blue, or like deep purple in terms of flavonoids treats, blackberries and blueberries, I couldn’t get enough of because they support small blood vessels in the eye.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (15m 19s):
So they healed as well. And I believe that was a, a lot to do with it. So the metaphysics and the whole holistic natural health made a massive difference and I’m really into that. And that was another factor as well. But that’s also to answer your question, brilliant stopping diabetes. So your guys can, you know, take it as far as you want to. And the book really helps you to do that from four rivers. So to, you know, just stopping it, however, you know, whatever that means for anybody really.

Christine Okezie (15m 57s):
Yeah. So move, helping someone move beyond the limitations, whether they’re the perceived limitations or imposed limitations, you know, with the diagnosis. Right. That’s huge. So to, to go even further into that, what are the metaphysical roots of type one and type two diabetes in your, in your research?

Dr. Emma Mardlin (16m 17s):
Well, this is so interesting. They both forged the same, really. They just manifested in different ways, I suppose, to the severity of what’s involved. But if I take diabetes type one, first of all, and that’s to do with, if you’ve had a trauma and what I found through lots of research in questionnaires is that it always comes down to a lack of sweetness in life. So that is whether it’s type one or type two with type one, it’s the trauma. And it seems to be linked with bereavement.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (16m 57s):
So that could be bereavement in terms of loss of life. But when I did the surveys and the research, I only had one person out of hundreds of people I surveyed with diabetes that came back to me and said, I don’t understand because I’ve had, I’ve never had, I’ve never lost anybody around the time of diagnosis. I said, okay. And you don’t always have to have lost, lost them in terms of a bereavement. But I said, did you have anything happens to you? Like, did your parents divorce, or did you lose a pet or was there any other specific loss in life?

Dr. Emma Mardlin (17m 42s):
Did you maybe have an accident, lose a limb? Did you know, lost? Doesn’t have to just be bereavement. And interestingly, you said, Oh my gosh, I lost my, my parents divorce. I think just around the time he was diagnosed or before that, like not much before that. And he said, I was really, really affected by it. So I said, could that be classed as a loss and bereavement niggas like, yeah. So it was interesting that I’ve never had anybody that hasn’t had a bereavement or loss of some form where it, that it’s been linked to that’s caused a severe lack of sweetness in life.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (18m 29s):
And when you go into metaphysics, the pancreas is all about sweetness. And when you look at the loss of sweetness in life, the body overcompensates, then with sweetness too much sugar in the body, which is type one diabetes. And that’s why it’s an also immune condition. And, you know, cause some people say, well, you know, it was caused by a virus. You know, how do you talk about that? The reason, if you say traumatized by something, you’ve had the loss in life, your immune system is going to be really impacted by that. Then therefore making you susceptible to a particular virus that the virus could attack anything, the virus COVID virus could be, you know, you name it, but why did you attract this specific virus that attacked the pancreas and the beta cells and ate them away so that your body then has far too much sugar in it to be able to process overcompensating for the lack of sweetness in life.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (19m 37s):
And then type two diabetes is more linked with stress in terms of not as severe as type one, but it’s more about the stresses in life that take away the sweetness. Therefore people overcompensate by eating more sugar and consuming more alcohol and maybe smoking and the lifestyle fighters that thang cause the pancreas to not function as well. So that’s basically like, you know, the machine slowing down because of all the stresses. And again, it it’s still the same principle, but on a, on a lesser scale where it’s more a case of people choosing themselves kind of overcompensate rather than the virus attacking with it.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (20m 32s):
But it’s, it’s down to, it’s not apportioning blame in any way at all, but it’s about, you know, our coping mechanisms because you know, the stresses in life, then, you know, you need a coping mechanism and lots of people do go for comfort feeds and sugar and actually sugar is more addictive than cocaine. That’s the meth physical rate.

Christine Okezie (20m 57s):
Okay. Yes. That, that makes so much sense to me. Thank you. So when you work with someone and you’ve identified, okay, here are some of the metaphysical routes, here are some of the underlying, maybe emotional traumas. It makes sense. You know, for folks who develop a condition, you know, later in life, or even as a child, you know, but what happens when someone’s born with type one diabetes, that’s, what’s coming to mind, how do we explain or, or seek to understand the, the metaphysical roots there?

Dr. Emma Mardlin (21m 31s):
Brilliant question. So we thought we can look at the epigenetics. So the epi meaning a book. So that’s kind of looking at the origins of maybe come from your mother. So maybe your mother was stressed, very stressed during pregnancy. Maybe he overcompensated with sugar during pregnancy, and that’s concrete to you in the womb in gestation. Say that something very interesting to look at traumas that she, she may have had.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (22m 14s):
And then there’s the other route in terms of your soul in terms of what you carry through in your transition of life. So going back, you can, you know, work with the unconscious mind in terms of all this, where have you made, how lack of sweetness of life or, or something that may have happened in a past life. Yes, that’s then come through to, you know, when you’re actually born. So it’s the, there’s two real heavy roots there really fascinating to look at.

Christine Okezie (22m 52s):
Absolutely. And you in your work and in your practice, you work with a lot of emotional release work and emotional release techniques, right. To help people access some of those deeper unconscious subconscious roots.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (23m 6s):
Oh, absolutely. Going back really, really deep. It involves a lot of clinical hypnosis and regression to is to, you know, exploring the unconscious mind. And also with the teaching people, how to do very deep meditations, say what comes to mind organically, you know, because we’re all different. We all have different routes and different experiences are presented to us. So that was fascinating. Some people have had some really fascinating kind of experiences and results, my work a lot with Kundalini meditation.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (23m 48s):
So that’s fantastic. And getting people to this end, which is again, of really, really interesting work. That’s also a lots of release work in terms of consciously as well. Some people will really know what the issue is and some people really think they know what the issue is. And actually when we start to explore, exploring something entirely different and taking it as even promote for myself before, and that’s really interesting, something that I thought was a major, major trauma, and it actually was, but then, you know, underlying, underneath that you can reveal other emotions as well, that are then attached to all the links and realizing that having that enlightening moment of a metaphysical origin for me, I really love that.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (24m 43s):
It’s kind of like, yeah, just a great feeling, really of release and get with something. And then what’s even more fascinating is, is the results that you get after that kind of, you know, how some things are locked and how something’s freed and then have that affects your health in such a, an amazing positive way.

Christine Okezie (25m 9s):
Yeah. And it’s always been very fascinating to me. So as a Kundalini yoga teacher, so I’m right in your space that that’s, that’s the, that’s the somatic component in, in, for me that really resonated, you know, working with both the mind and the body using those amazing techniques. And, and it’s interesting because, you know, when we think about working at that level, working at that sort of energetic level, working at the deep recesses of the mind, the body and the mind sort of become one. And so whether we’re talking about healing, you know, a physical condition, like type one diabetes or some version of auto immunity or, or whatever condition in the physical body, we’re also healing it in the, in the mind, because like you said, the feeling of self-empowerment and clarity and, and sort of emotional resilience leads to different behaviors, you know?

Christine Okezie (26m 2s):
So instead of being in that sort of disempowered mindset, we’re going to take care of ourselves a lot differently. If we all of a sudden, like you said, feel lighter and feel more like kind of, you know, sovereign in our, in our body. So it’s just a beautiful, comprehensive way to get to real change is, you know, I think

Dr. Emma Mardlin (26m 21s):
Awesome. I think you’ve just articulated that perfectly lovely to hear and, and absolutely I can not put that any better myself, but the mind is the body. And when you have that mindset and you think, you know, none of us are remain to, to feeling unwell or things that, you know, we will get certain conditions or things that happen. And I think when you are aware of that, it’s the awareness that makes the difference because nobody’s immune and it can be so easy for people to, especially within our industry, say portion blame.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (27m 5s):
If some, if somebody is kind of unwell or something, it’s like, well, how can you be in well, if that, you know, X, Y, and Z happens, it’s like, none of us are immune to emotions and different things in life, presenting different challenges at different times. And, you know, that’s why things happen. But when you have the awareness, like you say, and the ability and the resources to be able to deal with that. And when you can’t see the mind as the body, it’s really fascinating. You know, even from a personal point of view, you think why has that happened in you have a questioning mindset that then puts you in a different place that then allows for the healing to take place and happen.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (27m 50s):
And even if it’s a process, because people with chronic conditions, especially like diabetes, you also have to be very mindful to not be too harsh and too critical on yourself because you know, the longer you’ve had something the longer, it can take two with this, even though it can happen instantly because that’s how the mind and body come work. You also have to give yourself that almost a forgiveness in terms of, you know, what you have or what you’ve been through and past traumas. It doesn’t necessarily mean it’s an issue now, but it does take, you know, that awareness and that process, you still have to do the work.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (28m 36s):
Yes, it’s quite, you know, can be challenging work because you really have to apply your mind to then heal the body. But like he say, once you get an awareness of the mind is a body is very, very enlightening in a sense and empowering in terms of what you can do, because you’re ultimately in control of that. And there’s so many semi ways and methods to explore and it’s to be enjoyed and enjoy the process as you go along, even if there’s bumps in the road and enjoy it. And then it’s always working. It’s the metaphysics.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (29m 16s):
So yeah, absolutely

Christine Okezie (29m 17s):
Brilliant. Yes, yes, yes. So yes, awareness, it’s kind of the super power. I think that unlocks, you know, a different trajectory overall for, you know, how to, to move through whatever it is we’re going through. And I love the compassionate and the forgiveness piece that you highlight in your work, because that is that’s healing unto itself. And that’s absolutely fundamental, I think, and missing in, you know, and actually maybe even missing in some holistic circles where we, we might tend to say, Oh, you know, I gave that to myself or I didn’t handle that well enough. And, and that’s not what we’re talking about here. Right? And we’re talking about just sort of deeper and deeper levels of awareness and, you know, radical acceptance, I guess.

Christine Okezie (30m 2s):
Right. For seeing where you are. So you know where you can go. Now, I want to talk about you bring up, you talk about the indestructible mindset in your book, which I love. So some of the key points, and there’s some wonderful ones in there I’m going to just bring them up. And then you, if you, in your own words could kind of walk us through so we can get a flavor for the, you know, what that indestructible mindset is. The first one is you are in control of your own mind. So it might seem obvious, but I would love cause it’s you speak so beautifully about it. What, what do you need to know? What do people need to know when you talk about you’re in control of your own mind?

Dr. Emma Mardlin (30m 38s):
Yes. Yeah. It’s I think most people will have heard of the terms cause and effect. So it’s about accepting, always personal responsibility. And this is why I mentioned just earlier, it’s not about apportioning blame. So to say that you’re in control all the time could mean that you’re to blame for something all the time, or like you say, I gave myself that condition, you know, bad me, no, to me punish me. And it’s really not about that. It’s not about fault or blame, but it is about accepting that you are responsible and you are in control, which means you are also in control and responsible to do something about it.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (31m 27s):
And knowing that nobody else can tell you what to do. Nobody else think control. You are always creating your own internal reality. What’s your story? What are you telling yourself inside? And how are you creating your own life? Are you creating your own health and what’s really going on for you, that you are creating what’s cause it really all comes down to your own deep belief system and your installs. So, you know, even in the morning when you first wake up, what’s your first thoughts, you know, ISA on a positive cycle, is that on negative cycle, you can choose to see hell he can choose to say diabetes is a problem as something that holds you back or you can choose to be in control of it.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (32m 21s):
So a question I always ask is, are you in control of diabetes or is it in control of you in terms of you are always in control? That’s what I’m talking about. If your mindset. So if you’re always in control of your mind, you can do something about whatever in terms of creating your own internal reality. So I started the book with, you know, are you a victim of diabetes or you no way I’m going to take control of this, know what to do? And this is my health and this is what I want to do. But you can also ask yourself the question if you’re not in control of your mind, who the heck is.

Christine Okezie (33m 6s):
Oh my gosh, that’s awesome. That’s really great. Yes, yes, yes. So it all begins with our thoughts and that’s that’s, you know, and, and one of the things you do mention in the book, you said, thinking about diabetes differently, more philosophically is the key to real change. And I think that says it all right there.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (33m 24s):
Yes. Yeah. I think you do have to see it really in terms of the metaphysics, in terms of what’s it really about what you really overcompensating for? What does it come down to and be mindful of that makes you see it very differently. And again, a lot of things that presses people I find about diabetes is the healthcare system, the medics and the medical side, and them constantly hammering the negative side of it. I mean, the moment I have a patient who’s two years old with diabetes and he recently, he was running away from his parents, putting his little blanket over his life remain and say, they asked me to come around because his mom went into a meltdown with it.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (34m 19s):
She was distraught as you can. Well imagine. And I went in there and I saw him, I showed him what I do and how I inject a lot. When I did the love a little boy, he smiled and that was the first time. It, it smiled seeing it. So he needed that positive encouragement. But when I went down to the root, what the medics had done, they put a cannular in his, in his leg to do injections. And it was really sore and hurting. And they’d been saying about, I mean, at two years old, he must’ve still processed that body language and the way things were coming across, how they were articulating about diabetes and the complications to his parents, they were upset.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (35m 5s):
He must’ve picked up on all this, you know, I’ve had it myself. It’s depressing when I go or have been to the diabetes clinics. I mean, I felt though to be an amputee and gay blinds from this, that, and the other, and they can put forward any positive, you know, philosophy or any kind of positivity, to be honest, but certainly yeah. Having a philosophical mindset about it and never that over-focused because we get what we focus on. So if everybody’s always focused on diabetes, then you know, diabetes, it gives energy to it.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (35m 47s):
We give energy to, it makes it grow. And that’s just quantum physics. That’s how the universe would say, the more anybody’s obsessed with diabetes, the more it will make it grow, you know, that negative context. Whereas otherwise, if it’s never a problem, it never has to be a problem. Or we look at ourselves in terms of it’s actually never diabetes. That’s the problem. It’s us. And again, that’s not in a sense of blame. Yes. What’s going on in our lives. I probably myself when my research now, but they, 90% reversed and then my sugar levels have gone.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (36m 28s):
It’s all gone out of the window and I’ve had to take a step back and I’m like, Oh my gosh, what’s happening. This can’t happen. I’ve got a book on reversal I’m researching and you put you into a panic, but then you have to take that philosophical approach, you know, maybe come to light to why it’s important to have the absence of panic. Even if things do go wrong or don’t go always according to plan, there’s no right or wrong. They, my opinions feedback. And you know, we have to look at what’s going on in our lives and it times I’ve been so overworked or 24 seven, it’s like, well, hang on, I’m working so much, this is affecting my research and my health.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (37m 16s):
So it’s not diabetes. That’s the problem. It’s me.

Christine Okezie (37m 19s):
Yeah. No again, it’s that self-awareness that you, you emphasize in, in the, in the process, right. It’s always sort of dropping into, what’s really going on inside of me is the question I like to ask. What’s really happening inside of me. Am I making a story about what I’m experiencing, but let me get underneath it. Right. So the, yeah, and I think this, this, you just described another key component of that indestructible mindset, which is becoming a master reframer.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (37m 45s):
Yes. Yeah, absolutely. Simply looking at whatever situation we’re presented with diabetes or life. And really, like I said, it’s never the diabetes, it’s always life

3 (37m 59s):
Brilliant. I love that

Dr. Emma Mardlin (38m 2s):
It’s looking at life and how we can look at things differently. So it’s so easy by default programming, how we, how we work is to look at what’s wrong and what’s, you know, the problem when actually hang on yet, that might be a challenge rather than a problem. So I do what positives can I take from it in order to move on or to get the solution. So always looking at really in life, the big picture of, and then looking at, you know, how can I see that differently in a positive context?

Dr. Emma Mardlin (38m 41s):
Or what can I do about it? Or what positively can I, can I take from it? And sometimes even if we’re presented with a great Vista promise or, you know, life is we’re dealing with at the moment in London and the global issues kind of looking at what can I do to contribute positively or what can I do in my life to make it fruitful and fulfilled in as far as possible, what I can do? How can I find a solution? And again, like you’ve mentioned before, Christine, about, yeah, what’s your internal story that in dialogue that you are creating that, then you’re putting out into the world because what you put out, you kind of attract more of back say really make sure it’s positive.

Christine Okezie (39m 33s):
Yes, yes. And again, this is a whole other dimension to understand why it’s important to be really mindful of what we think, what we give our energy to consciously and unconsciously, right. And to become, to become more aware of that because there are, there are, and what they say, you know, as, as within is without, you know, microcosm macrocosm. So that again, quantum physics and, and, and in, you know, it can be a very daunting way to look at, but in many ways it really isn’t because it, what it does is it gets us out of our own little, you know, hamster wheel of, of, of cause and effect. And we can actually see the bigger picture. And I think it’s very empowering, you know, and very empowering to show people that you are actually that powerful, you know, within, you know, to effect positive change in your life, in and around you, it’s, it’s, it’s really kind of a game changer when it comes to health.

Christine Okezie (40m 23s):
I wanted to ask you, what are some of your favorite techniques? I think we need, you can get as many as we can these days to dealing with what you call heightened stress, because there is that stress and diabetes connection, connection, stress, and health connection, which obviously you’re very, you know, we’ve talked about what are your favorite ways these days in terms of, you know, your patients and guidance that you give to other people,

Dr. Emma Mardlin (40m 46s):
Principal, there are two emotions in the world as a physically that’s love, and that’s fair and all the positive, happy, joyful emotions are derived from love and everything else. I’m Giphy ahead, guilt sadness, or derived from fear. So one thing to ask yourself is what are you being fearful of? And can you let that go? Is that so important? And one question linked to that I ask is if you regressively passed over transitioned and the next day basically got run over by a bus, have some freak accident.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (41m 34s):
Yes. How would you feel about how you felt today? You know, is it really that important in the grand scheme of life? Maybe it’s that. And I don’t know if I can, I can say it live on your podcast, but F it doesn’t matter. Just that very little really seems to help people because it just brings them, you know, but I recently moved to the Island just off the UK and I am so blessed and so lucky to be surrounded by beautiful kids and an inland beautiful country, but I know wherever you live somewhere nice, but here at waterfalls, all sorts of things.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (42m 22s):
So what’s, I do, if I need to take time out, I just go and sit on the beach and just think of nothing. All I do is see the energy and the light on one of my other mantras, okay. Brace yourself for this one. I am the energy. I am the light into my life, health, wealth, prosperity and abundance in all areas. So I see that, but more importantly, I feel that I feel the energy and the light and nature in my body.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (43m 3s):
And I hold that in myself. So I am the energy and the light, and I try to meet everything in abundance, health, prosperity, love, life, happiness. And I really feel that it’s failing. And what goes with that is my most favorite expression. And this is what I say, lets everybody off the hook is the pitcher, the distill cook for divine, our commit to work. So basically we are holding a coconut shaking. You can’t really get over goodness inside easily because it spilling it’s flushing everywhere.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (43m 44s):
Whereas if the cookies is held nice and still the Patriot can just pour into it, nice that day easily, it all goes in tranquil and nice. And that’s what I mean by still cooked. So when the mind is still and we’re thinking of nothing, even though we might have all this conscious clutter and stress, and this is a real skill to learn, apply that mantra of love, light and positive energy, then it can come into us and we can trust the universe to deal with everything else. Let all the negativity go. I’m focused on all the abundance that you want.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (44m 26s):
The love, the joy, the happiness, the prosperity health. Well, and it just comes flooding in. So that’s one of my favorite anti-stress resources is just take time out. Even if it’s just two minutes to sit down somewhere. If you just have a cup of tea or something, you just relaxing you and then become scented in skill and choose, thank you nothing. Let it go out the window and just have that strong energy and light. And that’s what you need to keep saying to yourself and seeing your body immersed in, see and light, you know, maybe one of the good technique is something I refer to in the book is fire breath and ocean breath.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (45m 13s):
So the Asian breath is like the rolling of the ocean. So deep breath in through your nose, as far as you can go your lungs and out through your mouth in a repetitive cycle. So it sounds like the rolling of the ocean is a calming one and then two blocks through any heightened stress and energy is the fire breath, which is literally just breathing in and out through your nose is in your optimum as a comp. And what I do is I see the perimeter of my body in a yellow lights going round. And by the time it’s done, you’ve, Snefru any particular blockages that you notice in your body.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (45m 57s):
So lots of people hold stress in death rates and because it’s communication about what the world, and again, the metaphysics of that with, if you can breathe through it with the fire breath, it can just help. And then once you let go of that, just notice all the feelings that you have within your body and just feel free and let it go. And then again, you know, the mantra I am the energy, I am the light and I try to abundance in all areas of my life feeling that is just nice and being able to be, be still really so amazing. And I forgot to say Christine’s younger and Kundalini obviously.

Christine Okezie (46m 41s):
Oh yeah. Well breath of fire is, is, you know, a definite go-to in the tool bag of Kundalini. It does everything you want it to do. But that’s the whole idea, I think is you, you know, to emphasize because the mind and the body are one system that the more that we can, you know, take control of, of the mind focusing it, using our emotions, using our intention, you know, bringing it into the physical and the emotional body, we work with the whole organism. And this is why this work that you, that you do is so powerful because you, we bring the whole body into it. We bring the whole being into it.

Christine Okezie (47m 22s):
And so why wouldn’t you, because that’s the way we’re designed is the way I always look at it. You know, instead of looking for some quick fix or one size fits or something outside of you, I think the message is, you know, that we, again, we are brilliantly designed and we’re only just starting to learn the true capacity of what this, this organism does. And, and that’s why I love having you on the show because when you discover just how intricately designed and how potent we are, you just need, everybody needs to know this, you know, like you need to, you know, like instead of you have many more options on the menu, as I like to say, when it comes to taking care of ourselves.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (48m 1s):
So definitely I think we have to, especially in today’s age, take the holistic approach because all the answers, as far as I’m concerned, all in nature, the best medicine is nature and our mind and what we can do with that, like you say, in terms of the power that we would actually have

Christine Okezie (48m 25s):
Pure potential pure potential. I couldn’t agree more.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (48m 28s):
We don’t need artificial intelligence. We

Christine Okezie (48m 31s):
Straight, we have yet we have yet to discover our full capacity. Yeah. I totally agree with you. We do

Dr. Emma Mardlin (48m 38s):
This science mosquito. Absolutely.

Christine Okezie (48m 40s):
Absolutely. So I’d love to ask this question on my guests these days. What was the biggest lesson that you learned in 2020 M?

Dr. Emma Mardlin (48m 49s):
Do you know what so much happened to me in 2020? And it’s probably that I can actually deal with anything, you know, lot, lots of things happen. And I ended up and the first really serious lockdown by myself and I had lots to manage and, you know, from business to my own health and challenges and everything, you know, and I, so I was taken really out of my comfort zone in so many ways, and I was able to deal with that. And it was constantly having that philosophical mindset of, you know, what can I positively learn from everything?

Dr. Emma Mardlin (49m 34s):
How can I take what I have learned to leave the negative stuff and go to take the wisdom, creating my own reality. And when you start to break your boundaries and step outside of your comfort zone, what you can achieve is absolutely immense. And one of those things, you know, is to, is to give yourself rewards as well, to acknowledge yourself and what you do easy is so important. And to give yourself that nourishment and that also stimulates positive neurochemicals, I guess, in answer to your question, which I think is wonderful, but very thought provoking is that to do what gives you joy, always be rewarded by that and the mind be reflected in the body that, and that gives you good health and wellbeing.

Christine Okezie (50m 31s):
Oh, great. Well that just answered the other question, which is, you know, what’s the biggest tip. No, that’s wonderful. So, you know, yeah. I think we all learned, you know, we were pushed to our limits, everybody in, in many different ways and resilience is, you know, finding just how strong we really are. Yeah. Is a big one. And like you said, I think something is simple, but you know, really worth emphasizing is joy. Yes. You know, we kind of lose that in our busy-ness, but like you said, you know, the mind the body will reflect the mind. I think I love the way you said that.

Christine Okezie (51m 11s):
So there we go.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (51m 12s):
What you can do is change your own internal reality in terms of focusing on finding your own place. What’s your blessed, what’s important to you and, and what will give you joy? Like he say, it sounds simple, but where is your joy? How there’s pictures in your mind and put those in yourself rather than everything that can be looked at negatively out there.

Christine Okezie (51m 41s):
Absolutely. Thank you so much. Definitely. Definitely. And, and I just want to point out that in your book, there are just a wealth of resources, you know, positive affirmations by condition, organized by condition, all kinds of other stress and anxiety related techniques that work with the mind, body connection and very sound recommendations for people to implement very easily into their everyday. So your book mind, body diabetes is a must have, and as well as your other wonderful book out of your comfort zone, both talking about the power of your mindset to affect your health and your life. And I do want to mention that you also do right, have a free download on your website, which is www.dre-em.co.uk.

Christine Okezie (52m 28s):
m.co.uk. Again, that’s www.dre-em.co.uk.I’ll make sure to put that in the show notes, you have a free download, which is pretty cool: The Five Guaranteed Success Secrets, A Free Comprehensive Guide To Miracles, Ccures, Healing and Full Recovery.” Well, thank you. And this has been a pleasure to have you, I feel like we can just keep talking where, you know, we’re, we’re vibrating at the same frequency and it feels really good. Okay. Thank you.

Dr. Emma Mardlin (53m 0s):
Yeah. Oh, thank you so much. And thank you so much for having me on the show. You’re wonderful. And I love your work

Christine Okezie (53m 7s):
Pleasure.