Heal Your Body, Cure Your Mind, Episode #013 Interview with Dr. Ameet Aggarwal

Speaker (1s):
Welcome to the soul science nutrition podcast, where you’ll discover that when it comes to your health, you’re so much more powerful than you’ve been led to believe. And now your host, she’s a holistic nutrition and lifestyle coach, chef author, and Yogi, Christine Okezie.

Christine Okezie (22s):
Hello, and welcome to soul science nutrition. I’m Christine Okezie. Thanks so much for tuning in today. I am so excited for today’s episode. We are talking with Dr. Ameet Aggarwall, an internationally recognized naturopathic doctor psychotherapist, whose best selling book: Heal Your Body Cure Your Mind and online courses have helped thousands of people around the world heal their mind and body together with emotional release techniques and holistic medicine.

Christine Okezie (52s):
Dr. Ameet teaches us to heal the liver, the gut, and the adrenals on the physical level, combined with a psychological tool kit of modalities to heal our mind and our soul makes him one of the most recognized natural paths to follow. We’ll be talking to Dr. Ameet from his hometown in Kenya, where he returned back home after completing his studies in naturopathic medicine in Canada, in addition to lecturing around the world and running his private practice in Kenya, Dr.

Christine Okezie (1m 23s):
Ameet started FIMAFRICA, a beautiful organization that brings holistic medicine and homeopathy to remote communities to help improve people’s lives. You are not going to want to miss today’s conversation with Dr. Ameet as he shares his holistic strategies for healing our bodies by helping people overcome negative beliefs and release past stressful, negative emotional experiences. Okay, so hello, Dr. Ameet, thank you so much for being here today on soul science nutrition.

Dr. Ameet (1m 55s):
Thank you as well. Thank you as well. Greetings from Kenya, everyone.

Christine Okezie (1m 58s):
Amazing. So how are things in Kenya right now?

Dr. Ameet (2m 1s):
Good. I mean, we’re opening up the country a bit prematurely. However, there is a bit of an economic crisis. I think they’re concerned about, I figured our peak is going to be in August. We’re all just racing ourselves and doing the best we can with you.

Christine Okezie (2m 16s):
Yeah. Yeah. We’re all in the same boat trying to figure this brave new world out aren’t we, you know, lots of opportunities to practice. You’re dealing with uncertainty working on our nervous system and certainly keeping health in the forefront of our mind these days.

Dr. Ameet (2m 32s):
Absolutely. Absolutely. This is the time really to look inward and see what unconscious stresses we need to face and I guess, address and let go from our system and also take the time to really find out what type of foods nourish your body in the right way, because there’s a lot of emotional eating going on at this time out of boredom, out of stress, out of nothing to distract us. So these, all of the things that we need to look at during these times, especially,

Christine Okezie (3m 5s):
And we need tools. And one of the things that I love about your work is you have such a deep tool bag to give folks to help them navigate the stressors, the conscious ones in the unconscious one. So I want to dive in your book, Heal Your Body. Cure Your Mind is absolutely amazing. So, and one of the things that caught my attention, I love how you sum up this powerful role. That food choice plays. You say it’s quite simple, really, nutrition affects hormones and hormones affect emotions.

Christine Okezie (3m 37s):
Can you break that down for me?

Dr. Ameet (3m 39s):
So you have, you have a gut. Yeah. You have a stomach and an intestine and your, your gut has a nice lining, kept healthy by good bacteria and good food. And over time with antibiotic use in a poor diet, especially gluten or dairy or things that might be sensitive to these things kill off the good bacteria and damage your gut lining. And when your gut lining is damaged, you get holes in you and just dying and toxins leak into your bloodstream. And that causes an inflammatory response all over your body.

Dr. Ameet (4m 9s):
It’s called leaky gut syndrome and chronic inflammation. And with chronic inflammation, everything goes wrong in your body, right? You can take some pains with arthritis, you get exzema skin breakouts, and also all your, all your organs are affected your adrenal glands, your liver, your thyroid, and all these organs affect your hormones. Now your liver is the master controller of most functions in your body, in Chinese medicine.

Dr. Ameet (4m 40s):
It’s the master organ. And it also is the massive pool of your hormones. And so with chronic inflammation and toxicity from either medications from too much alcohol and environmental toxins on this skin lotions, we put on a cream, the lotion, your skin, et cetera, our liver becomes really toxic. Yeah. So there’s external toxins, as well as internal toxins from inflammation, you get all these really co smashed the liver and cause, or create what we call liver GI stagnation Cine.

Dr. Ameet (5m 14s):
And we live with cheese stagnation. Then we get into more hormonal imbalance. Usually it’s a progesterone deficiency or an estrogen excess, you know, lack of proper conversion of testosterone and empowered hormones and things like that happen. So you go into hormonal imbalance. You also produce a lesson by it when you’re, when your liver is staggering with less bile being released in your interest and you get more gas, bloating, constipation, indigestion. So constipation is a bile issue, not a laxative issue.

Dr. Ameet (5m 45s):
You will make the mistake of doing laxatives for constipation, no bio and never really. Yes. So this whole thing, when you get a hormonal imbalance, then your hormones affect your mood in many ways. So low testosterone creates depression. For example, progesterone is very important for your brain chemical called GABA to work well in your brain. And GABAA is this neurotransmitter that reduces anxiety. So if, if your progesterone is low, GABA, doesn’t work on your brain.

Dr. Ameet (6m 16s):
So you’re more prone to anxiety and insomnia. And I talk about this in my online course as well is basically why people with PMs symptoms, breast tenderness, et cetera, and any real chronic health condition, they really need to treat their liver to alleviate the PMs as well as the anxiety and insomnia and gas and bloating and breast tenderness, tenderness that comes within the chronic inflammation. That’s ensuing from leaky gut, as well as a toxic liver, then stresses your adrenal glands.

Dr. Ameet (6m 49s):
It tells your adrenal glands to make cortisol. Cortisol is needed to manage inflammation. Now your adrenal glands are already wiped out from either present day stress, your, your divorces, your bills, your financial restraints, going to work. Cell phones ringing late nights. You know, alarm clocks in the middle of the room in the middle of the night, all these lights going on. So your adrenal glands are on the verge of burnout. And then they have the added stress of dealing with inflammation. So you’re going into adrenal burnout much faster.

Dr. Ameet (7m 23s):
And when your adrenal glands burn burnout, basically your cortisol levels, then go out of balance. And when your cortisol levels are out of balance, your hormones go out of balance and serotonin dopamine, melatonin, and GABA, all your brain chemicals are dropping as well. Yeah. And you get the thyroid dysfunction, your thyroid hormones are not converted well. Your T four doesn’t get covered. P three very well. Yes. The combination of all of these will cause anxiety, depression, insomnia, OCD, paranoia, the whole spectrum of mental health that has given different labels and different diagnosis.

Dr. Ameet (7m 57s):
But really it’s, it’s a whole spectrum of your transmitter imbalances that are really easy to read when you treat the root cause, which is basically healing the gut, your liver, supporting your adrenal system. And of course, releasing emotional stress, which we’ll talk about how stress is stored in the limbic brain and stuff like that.

Christine Okezie (8m 15s):
Right? Yes. It’s amazing because when we’re talking about emotional difficulty, you know, and I like that term that you use, you know, whether that’s anxiety or depression, or just a low, you know, imbalanced mood function. So many folks know that they should eat better to try to fix that, but you really break down why it’s talk. It’s all about organ function, right? I mean, it really is supplying the essential components to maintain a healthy balance at the organ system level.

Christine Okezie (8m 45s):
And we, we don’t think about our liver when we’re depressed or have feeling anxious, or we were always focused on the brain. So the work that you do at, in your is really diving deep and giving meaning to this interconnection that’s happening when it comes to our food, our hormones, our mood, and our physiology. So now let’s talk about the emotional stressors, which you said need to be released as part of this work.

Christine Okezie (9m 15s):
So in addition to balancing what’s going on in our organ system, we need to understand there’s some emotional toxins or stressors that we need tools to release as well. So describe your process for working at this root cause when it comes to the releasing of the emotional stress.

Dr. Ameet (9m 36s):
Okay. So I’m a naturopath as well as a psychotherapist. Yeah. So I combine gestalt psychotherapy, EMDR, family constellation. So when somebody walks in with stress issues, right, there’s obviously an emotional component to their suffering as well as maybe a physical component, but 99% of the people in the world have some sort of emotional stress from the past, from their childhood that has not been resolved. Some people call it trauma.

Dr. Ameet (10m 6s):
Other people are calling it adverse childhood experiences. So this is either feeling neglected or being abandoned or seeing the parents fighting or divorcing being abused. Yeah. Or being around a lot of drugs and things like that. These are all things that have really stressed the nervous system of a young child. And so these traumas and this information is stored in the limbic system. And other people are, are recognizing that it’s actually stored in the water molecules in our body actually.

Dr. Ameet (10m 42s):
And that’s why homeopathy, which we’ll talk about, which I use a lot for healing, stress and trauma. Yes. Very useful for healing. Yeah. Unresolved trauma as well, because when homeopathy works in the water molecules of your system. Wow. So anyways, these things linger, we all these traumas adverse childhood experiences,

Christine Okezie (11m 4s):
And these are all unconscious right Dr Ameet? These are below our awareness.

Dr. Ameet (11m 9s):
Good question. Yeah. So some people don’t realize they have them, so they are unconscious or subconscious. Some people are aware that, especially if you’ve done a lot of reading and stuff like that, and being through therapy, you know, that you went through some difficult experiences in life and as an adult or a teenager, you know, if you were bullied or you went through sexual abuse or physical abuse or any violent experience, those external traumas, you know, you have them right. And we will change the mood and your perception and different things. And the key thing is reintegrating your original self back to you, your heart.

Dr. Ameet (11m 41s):
So you can live authentically without fear, without stigmatism, without self-doubt. Yeah. Without self-sabotaging. And these are all possible when you go through the right steps of therapy. Right? So what I do is, and the online course also helps you is work through the different layers of stress and trauma. So you peel away layer by layer and you, you really reintegrate your, your soft heart, your beautiful self and your confident self and your self love.

Dr. Ameet (12m 14s):
Because we give up these things as a way to escape from the pain of trauma. Trauma is not necessarily and give her, Marty says this, I love the way he says it. Trauma is not necessarily what happens to you. It’s, it’s how you react when experience is actually the trauma. But the way you react is escapism is avoiding your authentic nature, your carefree, spontaneous spontaneity. Yes. And that compensation is trauma because then it becomes dull. You become sad inside because you don’t want to feel, you know, the competent part of you cause that might get hurt again.

Dr. Ameet (12m 51s):
Or you don’t feel safe enough to be you that’s living traumatized

Christine Okezie (12m 57s):
And the effects that linger, as you said, you know, manifest in physical symptom,

Dr. Ameet (13m 6s):
Physical and emotional. Yes. So for example, like people were going through anxiety, depression, et cetera. And the root cause is either a neurotransmitter imbalance and a brain chemical imbalance caused by inflammation, toxicity, hormonal imbalance, and as well, a combination of emotional stresses as well from childhood. Yeah. Attacking the nervous system. Yeah. Sabotaging the self belief and the self confidence. Yeah. So combination of external, emotional trauma, and also not being loved as a child and all these things, plus all the foods and the toxins we put in our body, all these things will mess up our brain chemicals.

Dr. Ameet (13m 44s):
Right. So of course we’re not going to feel good. Of course it be more susceptible to attacks from other people or your self esteem issues or self doubt or crashing fatigue, chronic fatigue, sadness, PMs symptoms, everything goes wrong. Yeah. When we don’t have the right support and the right support, of course, good emotional nourishing, good counseling, good therapies as well as good food and nutrition.

Christine Okezie (14m 8s):
Yes. The full spectrum of nourishment for all aspects of our health, please share with us now the nature of homeopathy and what that involves in your work.

Dr. Ameet (14m 19s):
So homeopathy is a beautiful form of medicine developed my doctor, Samuel Honamin from Germany a long time ago. And I can’t remember the years and what he does. He used substances multiple times so that there’s no final molecule left in the final solution, but the water molecules are altered in a way that it’s actually, they have a frequency now that matches the disease state of a person. So now we’re treating people that are frequency level, and that’s why it’s so effective in really altering the person’s physiology and emotions at the same time.

Dr. Ameet (14m 57s):
So their entire frequency changes. And when you change the vibration of a person and the physical starts changing very fast. Yes. And why homeopathy works very well is because we look at the unique symptoms of a person, you know, somebody with asthma, are they waking up at night or is it asthma worse in the evenings? Do they prefer cold water or hot water? All these are unique symptoms or which we choose a very unique remedy. And that’s where it goes deeper. And I use homeopathy a lot. And the online course also teach you the remedies for treating trauma from the task.

Dr. Ameet (15m 32s):
You can actually use homeopathy to address abuse, sexual abuse, physical abuse, parents fighting, whatever arguments, violence, shame, guilt, all these things that happened to you as a child using the right medicine. It doesn’t suppress anything. It helps release the energetic bonds and the blockages that are related to that traumatic experience.

Christine Okezie (15m 55s):
Wow, that’s amazing. So homeopathic medicine is a specific and personalized remedy. First of all, working at the energetic level of our past and childhood traumas, they, it matches the frequency of the suppressed emotions, which basically releases the blockages that are at the root of our health challenges, right?

Dr. Ameet (16m 18s):
It is indefinitely form of release. And what I would say, reintegration, you know, some of the language, the common language is to release trauma. And what we’re finding out as trauma therapist is really to reintegrate missing parts, escaping parts of this psyche in a safe way.

Christine Okezie (16m 35s):
That’s a really important piece because if we have a story, right, as you said, you know, the, the way that we responded to a traumatic experience or a difficult experience, in fact, that story has kept us safe for a period of time. Like we needed that story, right. And there is a lot of practices traditionally that say, we need to get rid of our story. We need to just let go of our story here. I mean, there’s just something about that approach that feels like a form of bypassing or actually creating even more internal division within ourselves, which is obviously not what we’re going for.

Christine Okezie (17m 12s):
That’s why I think the reintegration component is actually much more healing. It’s actually much more loving and compassionate in terms of how we’re working with a person who is struggling. Right?

Dr. Ameet (17m 24s):
Yeah. Yeah. It’s more, it’s humanistic. It’s more humanistic I guess. Yeah, because there’s a lot of pressure on people to forget their trauma or get over things or think positive, but the body remember everything, right. And if you ignore the body, the body memory and the body sensations, when you’re healing trauma, it just becomes talk therapy and it’s not effective. You know, I get lots of clients coming to me saying, we’ll be too far therapy. You know, this is very different. I’m feeling my body, I’m shaking stuff off on reintegrating, like really vulnerable parts of myself, missing parts of myself.

Dr. Ameet (17m 56s):
And it feels so much better know I’m getting so much further with this step of therapy rather than just conventional talk therapy because, because the body freezes, right, the body freezes or compensates or hide shame, hydro anger, you know, anger like raw anger is a beautiful way of protecting ourselves and creating boundaries. And we’re, we’re so conditioned to suppressor, right? Cause there’s a lot of shame around them and we think we’re inappropriate or out of society.

Dr. Ameet (18m 26s):
And we’re so afraid of being excluded. If we get angry, we’re so afraid of being excluded from society. Absolutely. What we’ll have behavior and we’re perfect. And underneath this much boiling rage that goes and turns into fibroids and ulcers and ovarian cysts and things like that. Right. And really release it through good psychotherapy, somatic experiencing or homeopathy.

Christine Okezie (18m 51s):
It’s a genuinely, I say holistic, w H O L E holistic person approach. And it’s what’s needed oftentimes is to fill in the gaps where talk therapy exclusively, you know, can’t do you traditional therapy, exclusively. They all have their own gifts. But until we have that integration because of the, our, our symptom and our dysfunction, if you will, has all those components, right. It has all those pathways in such a beautiful skillset that you offer to your patients and your clients.

Christine Okezie (19m 26s):
I know that you have expertise in something called family constellations therapy. In your book, you talk about the healing power of forgiveness when it comes to using family constellations therapy. Can you give us some examples of that? Cause I, I have a lot of clients who understand on the cognitive level. Well, it was, you know, I was emotionally abused by my mother and my father was, you know, struggling with alcoholism and everything. And I, but the whole idea of making peace with that is the new, you, you bring a new depth to it using this tool.

Christine Okezie (20m 2s):
Can you talk about that?

Dr. Ameet (20m 4s):
Yeah. Thank you. And just tuning into the energy of it. Yeah. So family constellations is a beautiful exploding form of therapy all over the world right now, where it really corrects imbalances in the family system. It heals transgenerational trauma. So trauma that happened to your ancestors or even trauma that you don’t know about that happened in your family system and that out of loyalty, your children or siblings are caring for your mother, your father, your grandparents, without realizing we’re doing it because we were born into a traumatized system.

Dr. Ameet (20m 43s):
So as a soul, being the sensitive babies who pick up on things and we adjust our natural expression to belong to the traumatized system because that’s our identity of love. Yeah. That’s our source of love is a traumatized system. So we have to fit in there. So we adjust our, our, our way. And of course that leads to chronic health conditions, emotional problems as adults and, and family constellations offers a beautiful way to really UN unintended or disentangle ourselves from the traumatized system so that we can, we can receive healthier energy for ourselves and live life without feeling that we’ll be training our own families.

Dr. Ameet (21m 25s):
Even if we don’t follow their traumatized lifespan and forgiveness. I learned a very beautiful sentence for forgiveness. So rather than saying, I forgive you, which maintains that dominance, like you’re the perpetrator, I’m the victim kind of thing in that sentence. I forgive you still makes the person wrong. Yes. I learned a beautiful sentence, which I write about in the book is I am sorry. This happened between you and I.

Christine Okezie (21m 54s):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dr. Ameet (21m 56s):
I’m deeply sorry that I was affected by your misbehavior. It doesn’t work for every sort of assault. Like I use different sentences with my clients for different sort of assaults like for sexual abuse. Sometimes I say, you know, I take my, my body and I give you back your sexuality and distorted intention.

Christine Okezie (22m 19s):
Hmm. Wow. That’s a very powerful, so powerful.

Dr. Ameet (22m 25s):
And that works really well to heal the nervous system and bring people out of that traumatized victimized experience of life.

Christine Okezie (22m 34s):
Yeah. And interrupts the narrative that might’ve been playing for a very long time. Right?

Dr. Ameet (22m 41s):
Yeah. Change the narrative for ours, which, and when you change the narrative, you get in touch with your heart, your vulnerability, the true self. Yeah. The hurt self or the loving self, the self accepting self. And then naturally when you heal the heart, then the narrative reduces and stops. And then you start looking at more positive things in life. You started becoming happier. You start connecting with people much more trustingly or with more love. And so when you do that, you receive more love as well.

Dr. Ameet (23m 12s):
So you get into better relationships, your life becomes better and you just grow more spiritually. Right.

Christine Okezie (23m 18s):
I love that. Yeah. It, it really is such a, a deep healing that can take place from, as you mentioned from the heart and from the energetic soul level, which is again where the deepest healing occurs as, as you know, I love that. Now that phrase is just one of so many powerful tools in your book. One of is for dealing with resistance.

Christine Okezie (23m 48s):
So you’re in the same space. When we see our clients struggling with taking care of themselves, they know what to do. They know all this great information and knowledge, you know, how to eat better, how to move better and everything, but they have a resistance to it. And they even recognize this resistance. And you talk about in your book, one of the most common and difficult hurdles to overcome is giving ourselves permission to heal, giving ourselves permission, to be okay, to feel worthy enough, to have a healthy body, right?

Christine Okezie (24m 27s):
So you have a tool for this. It’s again, another beautiful system of phrases. Can, can you please share with our listeners what that is? Cause it really landed for me.

Dr. Ameet (24m 36s):
Yeah. So, so I think I channeled this one. It just came to me through meditation. It said to feel hurt from time to time. It’s safe to be forgiving once in awhile. And it SI relax from time to time. So what I’m doing is I’m giving permission for myself to feel a whole spectrum of positive and negative or stressful emotions from time to time.

Dr. Ameet (25m 8s):
So I use the words from time to time on purpose, because from time to time and gives the psyche, the ego and the subconscious and the heart permission to, to feel both yes. And the absence of those feelings, rather than stress yourself, a few positive ones that it’s safe to feel good. It’s safe to feel fantastic. There’s a part of you that always in resistance to that. Cause like, hell no, I don’t want to feel that way. I’m going to get hurt again. Right. And if you try it out right now, listeners were listening and you add the word from time to time, your body goes into relaxation.

Dr. Ameet (25m 44s):
I don’t have a, should myself into getting better or feeling good in grade. It’s like it’s available to me. And when something’s available, it becomes a choice. And when something’s out of choice, rather than pressure, boom transformation just multiplies and you here comes organic and

Christine Okezie (26m 1s):
Easy flow, right. The way things are supposed to be yeah. In their natural. Yeah,

Dr. Ameet (26m 7s):
Exactly. Rather than the pressures of shirts, I should feel that we, I should be positive. I should, I should feel better. Sure. This is a very damaging, damaging narrative that we’re affected by, by, by therapists even though, or personal growth teachers. Right. Is to be careful. I mean, they’re lovely people. They mean, well, it’s just be careful with the language we’re using for our own self healing. So I think gentleness and permission to heal is more effective than forced.

Christine Okezie (26m 37s):
Oh my gosh. Yeah. That’s huge because it can come from external folks who are trying to us, but even our own narrative is we’re. Should I say we’re shooting all over ourselves all the time, you know, Oh God, I shouldn’t have eaten that. Oh, I, I have to exercise today. No matter what, you know, all you’re doing is telling your subconscious mind, you’d rather be doing something else. And that’s really kind of the implicit narrative. There is like, well, I should eat that, but I really don’t want to.

Dr. Ameet (27m 8s):
And the word you see, we use should in a tricky way, as a trick, as a tricky manipulation manipulate worked good, I should be doing this, gives you a false sense of achievement and progress. If I’m shooting myself, it means I’m behaving well and I’m doing something about it. And yet there’s no action that takes place. It’s just the language of should. And nothing really happens at the end of the day to myself enough. So there’s less deal because I actually said to myself to do it.

Christine Okezie (27m 36s):
Yes, exactly. Thank you. I actually want to take a step back now and have you share some of the beautiful work that you do to help clients resolve and release themselves from once again, either emotional trauma or stuck patterns of behavior that are impacting our health. That go way beyond our immediate awareness, that actually goes so much deeper into our lineage, our ancestry, and even across generations.

Christine Okezie (28m 8s):
Can you just describe that process for us and how that works?

Dr. Ameet (28m 13s):
So we live in a field of knowledge, knowing field of information of vibration. And this field is going on from time immemorial. And we’re born into this field and this field has information about all the traumas that have taken place of all the imbalances or the good thing, the betrayals, the abandonments and people are living these feelings, right? So your mom, if she was abandoned by her father, traumatized by father it’s inner cells.

Dr. Ameet (28m 46s):
And when you’re born to your mother, you, you born off a traumatized person. And so you latch on to her behaviors or her, her moods. Yeah. It’s it becomes a norm. And you don’t realize that it’s, it’s not necessarily the healthiest way. It’s just the norm. So you’re born with the system, her way of being in the same way your mom was born into her. Father’s way of being and her father was born into their ancestors way of being.

Dr. Ameet (29m 20s):
So you’re born into a generation of behaviors of the needs of expectations, of really it’s energy. It’s energetic intentions that STEM from experiences long time ago that we don’t realize are being continued. You know, that we’re continuing based on our predecessor or ancestors behaviors. And so these tendencies then can lead to, you know, not loving yourself or having beliefs in the novel to think about money or self-love or diabetes.

Dr. Ameet (29m 56s):
Cause you’ve not receive good nourishment. Yes. And so ancestral trauma can be healed with family constellations therapy, by saying certain sentences to, to the people around you, to yourself, to your parents. For example, I get a lot of women who are in dysfunctional relationships and very painful relationships. And often it’s a pattern that’s in their family system.

Dr. Ameet (30m 27s):
So either their mom or grandma or somebody was with an alcoholic or abusive parent or in a difficult relationship. And what becomes apparent in this therapy is that a lot of children now that my client was in a car, have a subconscious guilt or loyalty toward their mom saying, gosh, mom, you suffered so much. It’s not right for me to be happier than you, you know, I need to be as miserable as you were. And so in a way there’s a subconscious self-esteem sabotage.

Dr. Ameet (31m 0s):
Yeah. And it’s, and then it’s easier to swallow or take on negative men or negative relationships because it’s like the norm for your family. Yes. And so you don’t know how to escape it and you don’t know why you don’t have more self esteem to run away. And so they’ll go, you know, they’ll spend hours of therapy on working, self-esteem work and self esteem, and it’s still stored in the SIM system, in the Olympics. And then when you face and it’s like, dear mom, I love you very much.

Dr. Ameet (31m 32s):
Even if I’m happier than you were with dad, even if I’m joyful in my life, I’m not betraying you. I’m not leaving you alone in your suffering. You know, I’m living my life of happiness, you know, maybe to make up for your lack of happiness, you know, I’m doing this for both of us exact and you suddenly have this subconscious permission to have joy and better relationships in your mind, in your life that you didn’t have before.

3 (31m 58s):
Yeah. Yeah. Another way to give ourselves permission to give permission. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Dr. Ameet (32m 5s):
One example of how family constellations is used. Another typical example is when there’s miscarriages or abortions in the family and we don’t recognize those missing children and reverse who assume we’re the first child in the family versus whereas, you know, there’s actually a miscarried or aborted child that came before us. And if we don’t acknowledge our true position, our second place or third place in the family, we live with a lot of unconscious confusion.

Dr. Ameet (32m 34s):
And suddenly we realize, okay, hang on a sec. I’m actually second in the system. So there’s less pressure on me to be the first child or to do all the duties and accomplishments that are meant for a first time. I feel a bit more calm in my life that I can handle things according to my pace in life, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.

Christine Okezie (32m 55s):
What about the relationship between emotional resilience and chronic disease? And right now, obviously in the midst of this global pandemic and people recognizing that they need to, to get that stress under control, they need to really focus on, you know, working with their, their moods and their energy to keep the body healthy. Right?

Dr. Ameet (33m 17s):
Emotional resilience is the ability to really withstand stress in a way or negative feelings and insults or emotional trauma. And emotional resilience obviously comes from having a healthier background or healthier upbringing. And, you know, if we’ve been traumatized with compensated or have a lot of adverse childhood experiences as a child, and we don’t have those resources and we’re emotional resources and we’re more vulnerable to stress and trauma. So we don’t feel as resilient and we feel more scared of insults or being abandoned because you know, all the trauma gets brought up.

Dr. Ameet (33m 56s):
Yeah. Mom leaving us when we’re two years old or dad feeding mom or shouting and screaming in the house, feeling unsafe, something that happens when repeating with conflict as adults, you know, all those childhood triggers get, get triggered. Basically all the childhood problems get triggered.

Christine Okezie (34m 13s):
And there’s a lot of stuff that is ripe for triggering us these days. I mean, you know, watch the news have a conversation, you know, just even if we just taking everything in and there’s just a huge emotional rollercoaster happening right now.

Dr. Ameet (34m 30s):
So what’s going on there. What’s going on in there. People are burning out. People are burning out. They’re feeling attacked. You feel lost, helpless, safe, or unsafe and supported. And so it’s a result of basically the present circumstances as well as their childhood beliefs in situation. And so what happens is when all this stress and all of his friends, he goes on in the body, then the adrenal glands are stimulated to make more adrenaline. And when that happens, the adrenal glands get burnt out and you’re going to do a cortisol imbalance.

Dr. Ameet (35m 1s):
And when that happens, you know, your insulin resistance is affected. Your, your water retention goes up, your weight gain goes up, your thyroids crashes. And so when you don’t have emotional resilience, you basically collapsed cause you logically as well. And then that leads to hormonal imbalances and everything else I’ve talked about, which leads to chronic disease. Wow. Right. If you’re doing the glands that are pumping well enough and you feel lethargic and all that, your lymph is not flowing.

Dr. Ameet (35m 32s):
So you’re going to retain more toxins. You’re going to get more oxidative damage in your tissues. You might be more susceptible cancers and other chronic diseases as well. And weight gain very, very, very important to build emotional resilience by healing the childhood bones by doing the really deep work. Yeah. Using the homeopathy, using the gestalt therapy, EMDR family constellation, you are really immersing yourself into that self love journey so that you’re less affected by external stresses, which harm your body or exhaust your body.

Christine Okezie (36m 4s):
Thank you. Yeah, that is so that’s awesome. I totally get it. I like the way you say, you know, emotional resilience is essential for a physiological balance. I mean, that’s the bridge that I think we want people to understand, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Dr. Ameet (36m 22s):
You don’t know if you’re not emotionally resilient, you’re going to get an ulcer from stress. You’re gonna get a stress also. Cause you’re going to over your, you don’t have the resources. You have to manage things and to let go.

Christine Okezie (36m 31s):
Yes. Thank you. And what we’re talking about, I think is having the right tools to release the unconscious stresses that are Weking havoc on our physiology

Dr. Ameet (36m 42s):
Because these unconscious stresses are literally stressing your adrenal system. Your immune system is responding to them, your nervous system, your water molecules, your entire physiology is actually altered because of what happened to you and these unconscious things that are going on for you. And if you continue this way without resolving them, then you would just burn out faster. And so when you heal these unconscious stresses and you heal these wounds from childhood and things like that, because most people don’t realize that when their mom looked away the other way and ignore them, that that left an emotional wound, that feels like, Oh, I’m not good enough.

Dr. Ameet (37m 15s):
And then you live your whole life trying to make up for that feeling of I’m not good enough. And really you’re actually okay. And you don’t need to put that much hard work to feel good enough. Yes. So when you heal those wounds, then your adrenal glands relaxed. And when they’re relaxed, they’re easier to build up with the adaptogenic herbs, right? The B vitamins and the ashwagandha’s and the Rhodiola is, cause if you don’t heal the wounds and the stresses, then you’ll, you’ll be taking supplements your whole life without changing the patterns of your physiology.

Christine Okezie (37m 43s):
Oh. And so many of us, you know, don’t have the, the knowledge or the path to do that. Some people they’re taking supplements. We don’t even know if they’re working. They don’t, they can’t discern whether or not they’re actually doing the work they’re designed to do

Dr. Ameet (37m 57s):
Exactly. Yeah, no, the pain, the pain that I see for myself and for clients is that they have a lot of substance based on Google research and supplements are addressing symptoms and they’re not healing the foundations of health, which is delivered the gut, the immune system. And of course then therapy for releasing or to heal trauma and integrating vulnerability. And self-love.

Christine Okezie (38m 24s):
Yes, yes. Thank you. What about meditation?

Dr. Ameet (38m 29s):
So meditation gives space in our, in our minds, in our consciousness to approach the of us that either we’re avoiding or avoiding us, or we don’t want to see. And so depending on the way you use meditation, meditation can provide really that room for vulnerability, for acceptance, for self-love, for calming the nervous system down so that we’re not running away and putting an old memory, we’re not running away in fight or flight anymore.

Dr. Ameet (39m 1s):
Now we’re sitting with the feeling, the emotions without judging them and the lack of judgment and the acceptance relaxes the adrenal fight or flight response. Suddenly we don’t have to defend ourselves or make excuses for ourselves. And we become more comfortable with our sensations and our personality and all or everything about us. Yeah. And that self-acceptance that calming down really comes down the adrenal system, the fight or flight. So the cortisol levels change.

Dr. Ameet (39m 33s):
Right. And it’s easier to process all feelings old disappointments hold abandonments. Yeah. The word disappointment is coming to mind because a lot of what people label as trauma is really, you know, it’s, it’s, it’s chronic unresolved disappointment either with our siblings, with our loved ones, with our grandparents, parents. Yes. It is. Whatever.

Christine Okezie (40m 2s):
Yeah. That’s powerful. I love that. And again, it’s, it’s really always a pathway leading back to that heart space. That for one reason or another, as you talk about gets cut up, we get cut off from, or it gets burdened somehow or not, not are not able to connect with that. So much of, you know, holistic work is talking about releasing blockages and obstacles and all of that. I always get the feeling is always right there in that heart space.

Christine Okezie (40m 33s):
Cause we all get so caught up in our head. It’s quite fascinating, you know, to understand that we have these, these additional capacities, these additional powers really, you know,

Dr. Ameet (40m 49s):
Actually the power, the power is for sure the power is for sure, because we use intelligence, sensitivity, reading the environment, you know, feeling things in your gut. It doesn’t feel right. So, you know, okay, you got stalking, right? So we’re one being, you know, we’re not a collection of Oregon’s per se. It’s like w we, we kind of belong to the whole organ system, you know, and the whole organ system is detecting. It’s processing everything together. So everything is in synergy with the other.

Dr. Ameet (41m 20s):
Yes, no, the spleen affects the heart and the heart affects the liver, et cetera. You know, you have the whole five element system and it’s all true. There is no real separation between body and mind. And that’s really important. Remember you really want deep, deep healing and you need to feel the body and the mind together.

Christine Okezie (41m 38s):
Yeah. Do you think we’re getting there in, in terms of modern day medicine? Just what are you, or what are you hopeful for this coming through more and more?

Dr. Ameet (41m 49s):
Well, I think so. I mean, I have a whole online course that teaches healing the body and the mind touches on that. And a lot of people are recognizing the value of releasing or integrating emotions for the sake of resolving, you know, whatever it may be headaches, some people cancer. I need them more Johnny, for example, the woman who recovered from cancer, she’s very famous and she will then be dying to be me. I believe she had an emotional realization that transformed her physiology.

Dr. Ameet (42m 19s):
And I came hundreds hundred patients, you know, with stomach problems and headaches and other things that when we emote the right emotions or use the right words to emote, what’s unspoken, then a spontaneous healing happens because that’s just called retroflection engaged all we call it like, retroflection like a friend or stuck energy going on in system that hasn’t been expressed with the body cells just get tense and they produce too many enzymes, or there’s a lack of enzymes and there’s a breakdown of ATP production or mitochondrial function.

Dr. Ameet (42m 52s):
And then disease sets in right deep and relaxing. We feel safe and comfortable and confident then suddenly ATP production works better. Mitochondrial function picks up, you know, the Vegas nerve releases the right type of cytokines in the, in the, in the gut. And suddenly your good bacteria are flourishing because the right juices are flowing from your liver and you know, and the right cytokines that come from your vagus nerve. So there’s, you know, there’s physiologically, there’s a lot of evidence of how emotions actually create chemical changes in our body.

Dr. Ameet (43m 25s):
Yeah.

Christine Okezie (43m 26s):
Yes. Acceleration, this is really what we’re talking about. We’re talking about leveraging it. We have to accelerate the process. And in your book you say the old way of treating your mind and body separately is slow. Right. And, and yeah, and, and it’s, it’s really, it captures again, the power of having this genuinely holistic approach. So you do so much beautiful work in your community where you grew up in the, and it’s so curious to me, cause when I saw that, I said, wow, okay.

Christine Okezie (44m 1s):
So here’s this amazing practitioner and, and, and healer working with a population that is so underserved, you know, so they can’t go out and buy expensive drugs and they can’t go out and don’t follow the FODMAP diet, you know? Right. So tell me about the work that you do and why it is actually.

Christine Okezie (44m 31s):
So despite the fact that we don’t have all the bells and whistles that we think need are needed when it comes to healing the body.

Dr. Ameet (44m 41s):
Okay. Well thank you. Cause you’re letting me speak about something. That’s very dear to my heart is the mobile clinics all from Africa. So from Africa is a charity. I started in Canada a long time ago to do mobile clinics for poor communities in the North of Kenya. So creating the some world, the Maasai communities to kind of, and what I do is basically ride around in a Jeep and treat them with homeopathy. Now, a lot of these communities, of course, they have traditions of herbal medicine and those traditions are being forgotten.

Dr. Ameet (45m 11s):
Number one, number two, homeopathy is super safe and working very effectively, especially for children. And so, and a lot of these people have forgotten or gone to Western medicine and, you know, Western medicine, especially the overprescription of antibiotics and antimalarials and painkillers are just damaging their system. And they’re loving the homeopathy. They’re loving the homeopathics, it’s gentle and it’s treating the root cause without damaging the body. Yes. And, and I’m using homeopathy now with children who have been abandoned because of their disabilities.

Dr. Ameet (45m 46s):
I mean, kids are thought of as curses by the community because of the disability. So I’m trying call me up there to help heal either stunted growth or autism or cerebral palsy or, you know, disfigured joints, whatever it may be. I’m just trying my best. And of course, adding nutrition and stuff like that because they need extra vitamin D and extra supplements to stimulate the growth. Because I mean this 11 year old or 12 year old kids who look like three year olds, right.

Dr. Ameet (46m 17s):
Cause they were not fed. And so yeah, just try my best really. Right. And homeopathy works with holistic medicine works great. And we just try our best.

Christine Okezie (46m 30s):
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think it’s, it’s, it’s really beautiful that you say what you’re doing actually is to also empower the, not just the patients that you’re training, but the communities that you’re working with to recognize once again, to maybe rediscover that they don’t have to be so dependent on Western medicine practices that I imagine this is also such a beautiful opportunity for them to reactivate or actually put more practice into traditional forms of healing that may, like you said, have been kind of glossed over or lost, you know, in the name of progress and all of it, but it gives the power once again, back to the patient and to the family to know this it’s so beautiful.

Dr. Ameet (47m 19s):
Yeah. Because traditional medicine and Messiah knowledge of Herb’s is super, super valuable. You know, Western medicines kind of squashed it, I’m calling it or witchcraft. It was squashed. And I think it was a colonial kind of law that came in actually that caused it to be come witchcraft. Yeah. So by giving back the power power back to the communities and to these herbalists and things like that, and restoring belief in holistic medicine, also these herbalists and will get their jobs back.

Dr. Ameet (47m 51s):
Right. We’ll get a source of income back and get recognition in the community because they’re, they’re wise elders, right. They’re wise elders that are needed to get information from plants. They download it from ancestors and this is what’s missing in society right now. Right?

Christine Okezie (48m 8s):
Yeah. No, it really is. And again, just thank you for all the work that you’re doing to, to rejuvenate and bring that back into, you know, just a wider audience, because I think it’s important, you know, it’s affecting change on so many levels, the personal and the community, and eventually the society, you know, to kind of embrace what has been lost in so much of these traditional cultures. It’s it’s I can see that it’s, it’s where your heart is and that’s, what’s so great.

Dr. Ameet (48m 37s):
There’s my dear. It is one day when I sell enough books in my online course, then I’ll do it more full time. Yes.

Christine Okezie (48m 42s):
So then I’m going to do everything I can do to make that happen. What are the non negotiables in your personal self care kit? Like what do you do to de stress these days? You’ve got a lot going on, you know, I’m in your world, what do you what’s non-negotiable what do you need? No, you are doing for yourself. That is really important.

Dr. Ameet (49m 6s):
So I do Kundalini yoga in the mornings, which is fantastic Kundalini yoga because it resets the nervous system. It releases trauma from the body. It increases endorphins and it rebalances your neurotransmitters. And so after Kundalini session, you think clearly you are less depressed. So you make better decisions and you just feel more emotionally resilient, which as you know, now is very important for preventing chronic disease. Beautiful. And it also Kundalini also detoxifies your body and it increases oxygen delivery to all your cells.

Dr. Ameet (49m 38s):
That’s one, number two, I’m a therapist as, you know, get stalled, family constellations, et cetera. I’m very sensitive. Anyways. I’ll, I’ll tune into my own system and understand, you know, okay, I’m feeling a tension here or sadness here. What is it about? Is it about an old breakup? Is it about a loyalty that I have with an ex girlfriend that I promise I’ll never leave and it’s over and I’m still hanging on, is it, am I sabotaging my own happiness and going forward in life because of this old loyalty?

Dr. Ameet (50m 11s):
Yeah. My angry with my mother for ignoring me when I was trying to prescribe her natural supplements when she was fighting disease cancer and things like that. And am I still living with that disappointment? Is it unhealed? So I’ll scan my myself in the, and constantly sometimes I wish I could turn off the scanner. Now it happens all the time. So it’s like, I wish I could just live unaware sometimes and just enjoy myself and have a beer or something like that. Right. Well, I hope you get to do that too.

Dr. Ameet (50m 42s):
I hope so. One minute. So I’m always tuning in and scanning and resolving and releasing emotion. And I find that really important because it helps me be very emotionally clear with my clients as well, because I can sense when they’re sabotaging their own happiness with belief systems and narratives that are, are not lifting them by breaking or spiritually or healing.

Christine Okezie (51m 2s):
Yes. Thank you. Thank you. And I, and, and there’s always, there’s an important distinction to be made, I think, to emphasize your work, that it sounds very contemplated in nature, right. But it’s not just contemplated in the cognitive sense. It’s an in the psychological sense. And I think that’s, I know when I work with people, that’s the re programming or the paradigm shift that I’m trying to embody, which is that yes, we call it up in our thinking mind, but we feel into where does it live in the body?

Christine Okezie (51m 38s):
How is it expressing in the body? There’s a somatic component, right? That, that has to be part of the reflection, be part. That’s why we need to move. Also it, we can’t just sit on our meditation cushions, you know, for hours on end, it’s important to move the body as well because it’s this integrated system.

Dr. Ameet (51m 58s):
Yes. I love the way you explained that you hit the nail on the head and you got to feeling into the somatic experience of things. Absolutely.

Christine Okezie (52m 6s):
Cause that’s where they first took root. And again, that’s why the definition of root cause really is such an important one. I know it’s the term that I use. You use a lot of people use, but root cause is even beyond healing at the cellular level, it goes into the energetic DNA. If you even want to use that word. Right. But it goes into the subtle body. It goes into, as you said, the, the nonphysical parts of our being.

Christine Okezie (52m 38s):
Yeah. Which again is why can be fast and, and, and a lot more accelerated. I love that. So this is gonna sound like a really don’t daunting question and I hope it isn’t, but what is your ultimate goal Dr. Ameet?

Dr. Ameet (52m 52s):
My ultimate goal is, is to go to the light in peace, wanting to finally end this world with a sense of peace. That’s the ultimate goal. And on earth, it will be to be free, to love freely, to gift freely, to, to be less stressed financially, whatever is just to really love freely and bring them open. The hearts were awake, the hearts of people around me, so that there’s more self love, self acceptance, and more joy to bring back the joy into this world.

Christine Okezie (53m 30s):
Amen.

Dr. Ameet (53m 31s):
We’re serious. You know what I mean? Even in therapy, we’re over serious.

Christine Okezie (53m 37s):
We need a commitment actually, as you said to, to maintain that state of joy, to get out, to get rid of anything, that’s standing in the way for joy, especially now. And that’s why I’m asking you this question. And that’s why I know your answer was going to be so healing for people to hear right now, because we have to remember that we have to remember that joy and love and self love is ultimately what’s needed. Especially in these times

Dr. Ameet (54m 3s):
It’s available to us. It’s available to us. I always avoid using the word need because it’s a pressure to show. Yeah. Yes. So it’s, it’s an availability to us. So remembering it and, and getting guidance to refill it, to trust in it again, rather than be guarded and watch for about how not to let go of our guard, you know, that’s, what’s making us sick as well and unhappy.

Christine Okezie (54m 31s):
So of course, please share with us how folks can find you online and also how they can support the beautiful work in the community that you do.

Dr. Ameet (54m 41s):
Thank you. So I have some free videos on my website, a free course that people can watch to understand how you know, how he’ll deliver the gut adrenals, et cetera, and the emotions. And then when you get my online course and you get lots of copies of my book, then it supports the communities that I work with. And if you can get my book to become a New York best time seller or put in the hands of Oprah, if you’re listening out there or I don’t know, Michelle Obama, anybody who can really explode this thing, then I’ll be eternally grateful.

Dr. Ameet (55m 10s):
Thank you.

Christine Okezie (55m 12s):
Gold. It is called. Thank you so much. Dr. Ameet. It’s been such a pleasure and a gift to have this conversation with you. All right.

Dr. Ameet (55m 19s):
Awesome.