Ep#098 Finding Love and Magic – With Intuitive Coach Ronnie Ann Ryan

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Welcome to the Soul Science Nutrition podcast, where you’ll discover that when it comes to your health, you’re so much more powerful than you’ve been led to believe. And now your host, she’s a holistic nutrition and lifestyle coach, chef author, and Yogi, Christine Okezie.

Christine Okezie (23s):
Hello, and welcome to the soul science nutrition podcast. I’m Christine Okezie. Thanks so much for listening. One of the core principles that I hold in my work as a coach is that everyone is always doing their best from their own level of consciousness. In other words, our abilities in any given moment are totally dependent and all the stuff that shapes our perception of reality, i.e. our emotions processed versus unprocessed. Our family conditioning, our physicality, our physiology, our histories, our mental habits, unhealed childhood trauma. We might have experienced any socialization we’ve internalized and so much more when we consider how all these aspects of ourselves shape our ability to show up in the world.

Christine Okezie (1m 11s):
As we’d like to, we can see how our own negative self-talk as well as the knee jerk judgment of others really misses the mark. The principle that everyone is doing the best they can with the resources they have opens up the door first and foremost to self-compassion. It stops the obsessive cycle of do more, push harder, be better, and instead gives way to a space where we can kindly and consciously do the work we need on ourselves. That’s essential to generating the positive life enhancing changes. We all desire without this genuine commitment to working from the inside out, we remain in this mental tug of war with ourselves, between what we say we want and what we actually do, no matter what it is that we have our hearts set on better health, a rewarding career, fulfilling relationships.

Christine Okezie (2m 8s):
It’s key that we acknowledge how the limitations of our inner resources. i,e. Or thoughts, feelings, attitudes, and beliefs can make our lives super challenging. Now, the wonderful news that when we embrace a mind body soul approach, we can discover so many more powerful strategies to do this important inner work. Today’s guest is all about expanding our consciousness when it comes to creating our best life. She’s Ronnie and Ryan. She’s a love and magical life coach and has helped thousands of women find love and live an empowered, magical life. She’s an intuitive and energy healer with expertise accessing the Akashic records for practical answers and solutions to questions about life.

Christine Okezie (2m 55s):
Ronny Ann is the author of six books and the seeker of everyday. She hosts the radio show past life travelog and the podcast breathe, love and magic, which covers a wide range of simple grounded mystical methods. Ronnie has been featured by ABC NBC Fox news, BBC NPR, msn.com Huffington Post among others. You can learn more about Ronnie at her website, www. never toolate.biz. I can’t wait for you to listen in on our energizing conversation. And if you do enjoy it, I’d be grateful if you’d visit apple podcast and leave a rating and review.

Christine Okezie (3m 36s):
And if you haven’t already hit the subscribe button, please do so you don’t miss any episodes. Thanks so much for listening and enjoy the episode. And hi, Ronnie, welcome to the podcast. It’s a pleasure to have you today. Welcome.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (3m 50s):
Thank you so much, Christine, of course. Happy to be here.

Christine Okezie (3m 54s):
Wonderful. So it’s really such a wonderful journey you’ve been on. Please tell us how you moved from a career in corporate marketing and consulting to becoming this amazing love and magical life coach that you are today.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (4m 8s):
Hmm. Well that is quite a story, but you know, I just got to this point, it happened actually right after the towers came down In Manhattan and I was a freelancer and the marketing budgets all changed as the world changed as a result of that tragic accident. And so I thought, oh, let’s explore something new. And I had just been married and I decided, let me check out coaching. And when I did that, I realized this is the perfect methodology to help other women who were like me, who were still single and later in life and wondering what the heck, you know, how am I going to figure this out and make this happen?

Ronnie Ann Ryan (4m 54s):
I thought, oh, I have so much to share because I had dated, let’s see, 30 men in 15 months to find out

Christine Okezie (5m 4s):
Before speed dating was a thing, I guess. Right.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (5m 7s):
It was a thing I met. Well, I, you know, it’s funny because I used, I’m dating myself here, but personal ads. So people complain about online dating and I, all I can do is laugh. Cause I’m like, come on 22 words in a voicemail, there were no fixtures, you know, but you know what? I met great people and they weren’t off for me, but that’s okay. I just had to keep moving forward. So anyway, when the towers came down and I learned about coaching, I thought, oh, this is the perfect vehicle to really help other single women like myself get past whatever it is so they can find the love. They really dream of.

Christine Okezie (5m 44s):
Thank you. And, and so was there a turning point in that, you know, part of your journey that, that got you interested in developing your intuitive capabilities?

Ronnie Ann Ryan (5m 55s):
You know, I had already been using my intuition for quite some time. So I had taken tons of classes and gotten together with girlfriends and everything. And there wasn’t that much about dating actually out there at the time. So I was sort of a revolutionary being a dating coach. There were no that really weren’t. I mean, maybe Evan, Marc Katz. He, I think he started a year after me, so, and he’s, you know, he’s very big in the arena, but anyway, so the turning point for me was pulling together everything I had learned from all the personal development and spiritual growth I had done to make a little program for myself.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (6m 37s):
So I kind of created a method and that’s the method I still use because you know what it works.

Christine Okezie (6m 42s):
I love it. So how did you get into past life readings? Like how did that come about?

Ronnie Ann Ryan (6m 50s):
So when I left my corporate job, because I was in corporate for a while, and then I went out freelancing, but when I left my corporate job, I didn’t know what I was going to do. I hadn’t started freelancing yet. I had time on my hands. So I started taking all these classes and one of them was a past life class. And we were together for an entire year, a group of six women and a teacher. So every week we get together and look at our past lives and it was a fabulous way to get in a lot of practice, build confidence and have affirming situations where, or confirming where, you know, many of us would get the same thing.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (7m 31s):
When we would go to look, we would all go to look at one person’s life and then we would get similar answers. So that felt really good because that showed us, we were on track because getting similar answers to me and to many of us meant that we were finding out the truth, you know, whatever that means. Right. We were hitting on something that had meaning to the person that we were looking for. So after taking that course for a year, I was completely hooked on it. And I used to work at psychic fairs and I did past life readings at psychic fairs and stuff. And then I sort of let it go by the wayside for a while.

Christine Okezie (8m 12s):
Okay.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (8m 12s):
As I was doing my coaching stuff, and then it came back and the reason is because sometimes people just could not figure out what was holding them back.

Christine Okezie (8m 23s):
Right.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (8m 26s):
Yeah. So then I thought, well, maybe it’s not from this life. Maybe it’s from the past.

Christine Okezie (8m 32s):
Wow. So the coaching and the intention to help people, you know, align themselves with their perfect partners became the, the vehicle or the portal really for you to pull in, you know, all these other levels modalities, the, the, the perspective really that you had on people and life itself. Right. I guess what I’m getting. Okay. Tell us about your signature method and, and how it is actually the combination of this sort of secret a secret, but this, the signature sauce that you bring to the process.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (9m 5s):
Okay. So I, I think of dating in four segments. I start with mindset. I want to understand what’s your mindset. Do you believe in love? Do you believe in yourself? You believe in there’s a good man out there or a good woman out there for you, whatever it is.

Christine Okezie (9m 24s):
Yeah.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (9m 25s):
Because you can’t necessarily find what you want. If you’re not clear, you have to love yourself and you have to have good, positive, open mindset. And without that, you might not want to do the work that’s required. Like if you don’t believe in love, what’s going to make you keep going. That’s right. Dating, keep meeting people. Right.

Christine Okezie (9m 46s):
Okay. Okay.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (9m 47s):
So that’s the first thing we work on. The second thing is understanding how things work. So things are different than when I was dating, but I’ve been doing this for 20 years. So I keep up, I read a lot. And so understanding how everything works and what works best today, versus what you might think works or what, you know, your friends might think or whatever. I like to really help people find the shortest path whenever possible. It’s not always short, but you know, there are some strategies that can make your life a lot easier and really save you from heartbreak, which to me is one of the most important things.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (10m 29s):
So, and then there’s also presentation, you know, personal presentation, how are you presenting yourself? How do you want to show up in the world when you meet somebody and that kind of thing. And the last thing is understanding the other single

Christine Okezie (10m 49s):
Very interesting.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (10m 50s):
I definitely specialize in understanding men because I, I, you know, I CA come from a head of respect, heterosexual perspective. So, you know, sometimes women just don’t understand why did he do this? And why did he say this, but do this. And why didn’t he call him what, you know, all those questions that plague you. And I’ve really got that down to a science now, so that I helped my clients really get what’s going on. And often the gender isn’t as important as the thinking process, you know?

Christine Okezie (11m 22s):
Yeah. That’s what I’m getting. And I’m, and that’s why I think your approach is, is so grounded and really, you know, much needed in this space because usually it’s an external focus before prematurely. Right. And so what I’m getting from you is, okay, I’d like to say, turn your eyeballs around, you know, and look at yourself, you know, whatever the goal is, the goal is to have a healthy relationship. The goal is to have the career of your dreams, you know, whatever it is to, you know, to have the optimal health that, you know, you’re striving. It always takes that inside out commitment. And that’s a big commitment. So I imagine that, you know, when you share this is, this is how I, you know, I roll, it might be a little confronting for people, right?

Ronnie Ann Ryan (12m 7s):
Yeah, you’re right. That’s why I do my work on the phone and not on zoom.

Christine Okezie (12m 13s):
Is that right?

Ronnie Ann Ryan (12m 14s):
Yeah. Because

Christine Okezie (12m 15s):
This

Ronnie Ann Ryan (12m 16s):
Way you have space, you’re not looking at me and then you don’t have to look away. If you feel uncomfortable or this Tibet, you get to be in your own little space while you’re talking to a voice. I personally think that helps a lot because when I was trying to do some of this on zoom, I would see how uncomfortable sometimes people got, not that I’m being mean or whatever, but they’re looking at their own stuff. And it’s nice to be in your own private little world when you’re doing that sometimes. Yeah,

Christine Okezie (12m 41s):
Yeah, no, it was so creating that safe space is something that really works for you. I love that because these are very sensitive issues for sure.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (12m 48s):
A lot of times, and, but you’re so accurate and that’s exactly what I had to do. I had to look at myself and think, all right, I never considered this, but how might I be keeping myself single? And I had never thought about that before, until I got serious. I thought I got to do something different because this isn’t working

Christine Okezie (13m 11s):
Beautiful. Yeah. What are some of the common blocks that you see in this work? You know, and how do you help people move through them?

Ronnie Ann Ryan (13m 21s):
So some of the common blocks that, you know, a lot of times people fall into two camps, one they’re too picky or the other they’re not picky enough.

Christine Okezie (13m 31s):
Okay.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (13m 32s):
So for the people who are too picky, I think that that’s a great way to stay single because if you can’t find anybody that meets your criteria, what can you do? You know, now I’m not saying you can’t be selective. I think being selective is important, but I really work with my clients to get down to what matters. You know, a lot of times the women I work with have advanced degrees. And so they, they think the mentioned, have advanced degrees. And then I have to explain to them that far more women have advanced degrees, master’s degrees, et cetera, than men do. So that can be a limitation. And what about just college? I mean, if they just went to college, why do they have to be equal in education?

Ronnie Ann Ryan (14m 16s):
Will that make somebody a better lover or more thoughtful or more loyal or a good provider? No. So, so those are the kinds of things on the too picky side. You know, another thing is if they say they want a man who is six feet tall. So, you know, sometimes women who are 5, 3, 1, a man who’s six feet tall. And, you know, Hey, I, I have a man of six feet tall and I’m just five feet. So I wasn’t looking for that. It’s just, I would have been happy to take one of the short guys. It just didn’t work out that way. So, but I have to explain that men who are six feet tall are only 10% of the population.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (14m 56s):
So, you know, what about 5 11, 5, 10? What if you don’t wear four and shields? You know what, if, you know, it’s just a, you know, they’re a little compromises because if somebody is five 11, is he going to be a BA you know, not as good a boyfriend and not as good a potential husband, because he’s missing an inch according to your criteria. So these are the kinds of things that we talk about to get down. And what’s important, like your values and having similar values and having similar visions for the life you want to lead. And that’s far more important. Your longterm compatibility is not based on anyone’s height, job or education

Christine Okezie (15m 38s):
100%, 100%. So, you know, drilling down to those core values. And what’s usually, you know, keeping us from doing the work of going for that clarity and that refinement are these limiting beliefs, this, this sort of these rigid ideas that we might not even be aware of. And so I love the way that this is just a very, I get the impression, like a clarifying process that you work with people to really drill down. And this is where real change happens, right? Is, is you have to figure out what really matters. I say that all the time, what’s your why? You know, what’s your why, you know, because I’m of the belief and I’d love to hear your thoughts on this because of your expertise, I’m of the belief that, you know, pretty much our current situation is a reflection of where, what we’re currently, you know, consciously or unconsciously, mostly unconsciously deeming what’s important in our life.

Christine Okezie (16m 30s):
Right? What we’re really sort of unconsciously committed to. So again, it’s no, there’s no shame. There’s no right or wrong because it’s all good. It’s all a journey. It’s all learning. But at the end of the day, like you said, you know, there’s that big reflection, right? Cause you, look, you have to look at your current situation and say what’s being married back at me because it is something that I’m probably not aware that I’m committing to on some deeper level.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (16m 56s):
It could be, could be. So let’s talk about the flip side of the people who aren’t picky enough. Okay.

Christine Okezie (17m 1s):
Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (17m 3s):
That is a place where self-worth comes into play huge and tolerating treatment that is not necessary, not healthy. And so this is where I work with people to be more discerning and to, you know, really think about is that how I want to be treated. Does that feel good to me? Does that make sense? Is that the best thing I can expect? You know, when people get like, oh, well, you know, it’s somebody today and I re I don’t want to be alone. I’m like, you are alone.

Christine Okezie (17m 38s):
You just have

Ronnie Ann Ryan (17m 40s):
Somebody to date. You know, not, it’s not like a good partnership or good companionship, even our friendship. So they, somehow people, there are some people who just accept, you know, people who text and never estimate people who ask them out and cancel people have a million excuses about why they can’t get together. This people who say one thing and do another, yes. That’s what comes with really knowing your value and your self-worth. And so I definitely work with people on that. And you know, the funny thing is I worked with this guy. I have worked with some men and I worked with this guy once who was really good in sales.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (18m 22s):
And I said to him, how, what’s your close rate? You know? And he’s like 95%. I’m like, nobody closes 95%. He goes, well, I do. I’m like, that’s crazy. But he was having a hard time getting women to accept his dates. And I saw him, he was an attractive guy. So I’m like, what’s going on with you? And he said, well, you know, I talked to this woman and this woman, this woman, and they don’t get back to me. And I’m like, you wouldn’t sell a thing. If you waited for someone to get back to you, is that how you run your life? Is that how you get 95% close rate? He goes, well, no. And I’m like, well guy, listen, wow, women, don’t get back to you, move on. What are you waiting for them?

Ronnie Ann Ryan (19m 3s):
Either ask them out again. And if they don’t respond goodbye or just say goodbye, they didn’t get back to you. Just go meet other women. And he was blown away because he goes, oh my gosh, I completely forgot what I was doing. You know, he was trying to be nice or patient or I, you know, and so I said, forget that, just go find some women who say yes and want to meet you and want to spend time with you, which, you know, the flip side is true for women too. And I swear, within a month he had a girlfriend

Christine Okezie (19m 32s):
Mindset. Yeah. Yeah. Amazing. That is very powerful. Sometimes you mentioned that these blocks can go even deeper and you know, this is where the, you know, looking at the past lives and going into something called the Akashic records might provide some insight, right. Patterns of behavior, I guess. Right. So, so what are the Akashic records, if you can school us on that a little bit.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (19m 59s):
Sure. So the Akashic records, you think of it as like a big super computer or a giant library. And in this are the records of all of your lives, all of your past life and everybody’s past lives, you know, as well as stuff on your present and your prospects and potential as well. The word Akasha is a Sanskrit word. That means boundless space. So that’s why you just want to think of it as just this enormous resource of information. And so, and many religions believe in a book of life like Judaism and Christianity and Muslim men, then the Buddhists and Hindus talk about, you know, in their sacred texts, talks about the soul and the Akashic records.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (20m 46s):
So it’s, it’s pretty prevalent, you know, it really is. And so the idea is that your history, your personal history does exist. And if we can go back and look at it, it might give you another perspective or allow you to forgive or heal something, or think of things in a new way or a different way, or from that higher level perspective that you can go, oh, now I understand why that happened and why I’m doing this. Because a lot of times we bring things forward when we keep doing them, even though they’re not as relevant to this life.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (21m 26s):
So, you know, therapists, some traditional therapist might disagree and they’ll say everything is in this life and that it might be possible, but I think it’s great to have more access to information. It can’t hurt to learn more aspects to what is driving you. What’s motivating you, especially on the subconscious area.

Christine Okezie (21m 47s):
Couldn’t agree more, couldn’t agree. More it’s vast. Can you share maybe an example or two of, you know, how doing, you know, using the Akashic records provided sort of that opening that was, or that catalyst of transformation that, that, you know, the client needed?

Ronnie Ann Ryan (22m 3s):
Yes. So one example really surprised me, and it was a woman who was in her late forties and she was very independent. A doctor obviously very accomplished, except for in the love department. She just was having a lot of struggles. She hadn’t been married, she was in her late forties. And so we went to the Akashic records to see, you know, what’s going on in your past lives, what’s happened. And so she had one life after another where she was a servant or a slave, or, you know, had a lot of children or had no resources and no funds to help her. And wow, as a result, she really wanted to live an independent life and not be encumbered by, you know, a bunch of children or even a man telling her what to do.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (22m 54s):
She didn’t want that. And so that created a massive conflict because she thought she wanted to get married, but part of her really wanted to be independent. But the good news is recognizing this. She’s already accomplished a great deal of independence and success, and there are all kinds of relationships. So while she had missed her chance to have her own natural children, she could still find a relationship or marry because she could have an independent relationship. Like there will be some compromise, but when you’re marrying at a later age, a lot of times, I mean, I know people who she’s married, she lives in the U S and her husband’s in Australia.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (23m 38s):
Like personally, I can’t imagine that, but people, all kinds of things are possible and that makes her happy. So for her, because she found something that makes her happy. So that’s what I was explaining to this particular woman that you can create anything you want and you could live apart, but be together, or you could live together, but have very independent lives and come together on the weekends or see each other at night, but still do your own thing. And so understanding that in a way gave her that permission. That’s huge.

Christine Okezie (24m 10s):
That’s huge. Yeah. Right. I mean, just the, the kind of like bigger arena, all of a sudden, the bigger perspective, more options on the menu, the possibilities. Right. Just explode when you realize that. And that fuels like, like you said, as you, and then you guide them to tap into that. Now you found creativity. I love it. I love it.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (24m 30s):
Yeah. And so it was very meaningful for her because she had been so limited in so many lives, but she didn’t want to give up her power.

Christine Okezie (24m 39s):
So this is just fascinating. It really is. I love the fact that I think it’s really important to emphasize that you really understand that there is no perfect one size fits all kind of relationship partnership. Right. In fact, that’s one of the genius kind of insights that I think you bring to this whole discussion about finding your mate. Well, it is because more and more we’re we’re, you know what it is. It’s like when I, when I work with people on food, for example, right. We all laugh because we say, you know, we all have this picture. Okay, we’re going to have like the meat, the vegetable and the carbohydrates, like this like perfect little trio.

Christine Okezie (25m 21s):
That’s what a meal is supposed to be. But these days you do bowls, you do stir fries, you do make your own salad. You do, you know, mini meals. So all of a sudden we’re like, oh yeah. Well, why am I thinking of it in this limited way? So much in relationship, obviously I know we’re in 2022, but at the end of the day, it’s, it’s nice to give that you give people permission to look at relationship in the most creative way that works for them. That’s genius. So empowering.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (25m 49s):
Thank you very much. Yeah. I think it’s very important to realize that there are so many choices out there and you can have what you want, if you really set your sights on it and then do the work.

Christine Okezie (26m 2s):
Awesome. Thank you. That’s a mic drop. Oh my gosh. Okay. So on the flip side, though, you know, here you are, you’re this love magical. I’ve coached, you do past lives. You work with, you know, all of the sort of metaphysical consciousness stuff. What do people misunderstand about you and the work that you do the most? Like what’s something that you spend a lot of time clearing up for people.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (26m 27s):
Hm. That’s a good question. You know, I, I’m happy to give advice. I’m happy to help people understand the quickest way to whatever they want to do, whatever they want to get to, but ultimately it still boils down to them. Like as any coach knows, you cannot do the work for anybody. And so sometimes people get mad because they say, you know, I don’t need this coaching stuff. Just tell me where the people are that I want to date. And I’m like, you know, they’re not all hanging out in one bar with a big neon arrows. The good dates are over here. You know, like the good dates are mixed with all the other people on the planet.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (27m 10s):
And you have to look within and do the work so that you can see them. Like a lot of times people tell me, this is how it is. And listen, I’ve had those experiences in my life too, whether it’s about dating or about business or whatever, we all get into these places where we can’t see and we’ve had all these experiences. And so we insist that our history is dictating our future when that’s not necessarily true. And it’s not always easy to see that and shake yourself free. So I think that’s sometimes can create a problem where people want it to be easy.

Christine Okezie (27m 49s):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sort of, you know, wave the magic wand type, you know, magic bullet, right? Yeah.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (27m 55s):
I do have a magic wand. Well,

Christine Okezie (27m 57s):
Let’s, let’s go into that because

Ronnie Ann Ryan (27m 60s):
It’s not very effective.

Christine Okezie (28m 1s):
Now you need a new one. Right. But I always say that, you know, cause I have the same in, in the coaching work, you know, I always used to say, okay, well if I had a magic wand, but so just so happens, I’m fresh out, you know? So I guess we’re going to have to try something else, right? Yeah. Yeah. But at the end of the day, this is, you know, just interesting because one of the things I’m reading about you and your work and your message is that you do believe in magic. I Do. And you are secret magic and you and I are sisters on that same on that same path. So I’d love for you in your own words. What do you mean by that? When you say that

Ronnie Ann Ryan (28m 36s):
It’s important? You know, I think that magic happens all the time and all around us. And to me, the simplest explanation of my kind of magic is synchronicity. I love synchronicity. I love when things line up and things are easy because it doesn’t always happen that way. Sometimes I have to struggle in battle and whatever, but when things line up and they come together or you stumble over somebody and you meet somebody that can help. I mean, a perfect sample of this was I was when I wrote my first book, I was looking for a way to publish it. And self publishing had just started.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (29m 16s):
So there was like author house and I universe and all these companies that would publish the book for you, they would help you. And they couldn’t make my time. I mean, here they are, these are the professionals. They couldn’t make my time schedule because it was October. I wanted it done by February 14th. You know, I wanted it done for February. It couldn’t make the timing. And I’m like, I’ve never published a book, but I’m going to figure this out. And I had no idea what to do or so anyway, I working with a designer and I was thinking, how am I going to get this thing printed? And one day the phone rang and somebody picked up and they said, oh, I found you in the chamber of commerce, you know, booklet or whatever. And I’m just calling around asking you if you need any printing. And I’m like, no, I’m not printing anything except for a book.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (29m 59s):
I need to print a book. Do you know anybody? He goes, oh, we do printing on demand. I’m like, what? And that’s how I felt the found the printer for my first book. And that’s what I’m talking about. Synchronicity. That to me is pure magic because I did put it out there in the universe, but I didn’t dial a whole bunch of printer numbers and find out if they make printed books, it was totally magic that came to me. And so that is the kind of magic that I love. And the magic was how I found my husband because I was going out with my girlfriend and I thought it was the two of us going on a little look for men at a nice patio bar.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (30m 39s):
And she shows up with six girlfriends and I was horrified because as we all know, you’re not going to find a partner when you’re with six other women. I was so disheartened. And then I thought I would just get over it. You’re here now, you know, just get to know some of these people, they’re all new people. And so I started talking to her really good friend, Maureen, and we’re just chatting away. And after 20 minutes, she goes, and I was telling her what I was doing, looking for a husband. And she had just been doing that too. And she said, oh, are you seeing anyone now? Because maybe my brother would like you. And I’m like, what? And that’s who I married. So that’s what I mean about synchronicity because I was doing all the work. I was putting myself up there. I was, you know, looking at the personal ads.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (31m 21s):
I was went to singles dances, those God awful things. And, but the universe lined up for me. And I went to an event where I was mad because my girlfriend brings all these other girlfriends. And that is the event that helped me find my husband. This is what I mean by magic. And I just love that. Like, I feel so connected to spirit in those moments when things just kind of fall into place.

Christine Okezie (31m 50s):
Yeah. Thank you. Great examples. It’s, it’s always, you know, just a beautiful sign of almost validation or encouragement that, you know, you, we got you, you know, and, and you, you, you can’t see it right now. And that’s a beautiful reminder to, to say, I can’t see the entire story play out right now, but I have to trust because examples like that have proven that there is an intelligent design out there. And so anytime you have those strong reactions, which you, which were, oh, no, I can’t do that. Oh, what’s this terrible. Right. You got to catch yourself and be like, hold the phone. I’m having a very strong reaction. This could be, you know, kind of part of the, you know, limiting my perception of what I really need to, you know, be open to.

Christine Okezie (32m 33s):
Right. Right. So, so cool. So cool. Yeah. So, so if we’re interested in this and maybe you could make some recommendations as to some books or resources that have been really helpful to sort of expanding and opening our mind on this approach, what’s been your inspiration.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (32m 52s):
Wow. And

Christine Okezie (32m 54s):
You’re probably a reader like me. So you tied to him one or two.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (32m 57s):
I know I have read so much. I can’t tell you,

Christine Okezie (33m 2s):
But for someone who wants to get started and say, well, I’m not too sure about this whole, like how does the Akashic records have that? How does that kind of help me? How does knowing my past life really going to make a difference in my current life,

Ronnie Ann Ryan (33m 12s):
I would, instead of reading about the Akashic records, I would read some of the older books, believe it or not on past lives.

Christine Okezie (33m 21s):
Yeah.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (33m 21s):
So, you know, there’s some classic stuff like: “Many Lives, Many Masters” by Dr. Brian Weiss. I think that can be one of the most eye opening ways of looking at this. And the other book that I really like journey of souls. I think there’s one “Journey of Souls” and “One Destiny of Souls” by, I think his name is Michael Newton. And that is about your, you know, those two about past lives.

Christine Okezie (33m 47s):
Oh, that’s just beautiful.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (33m 50s):
Yeah. It’s about the lives between the lives. And that’s also very interesting, like what’s happening when you’re not on the earth plane and how you’re learning things. So I think, you know, if you read a combination of those two, it would give you the reasoning and understanding of why you might want to explore this kind of thing. But, you know, what’s so interesting to me is I started doing this, I say 20 years. Cause I don’t want to give away how old I am, but it’s hardly been a long time. And I started doing this before all these books were written, not either the books I mentioned, but all the Akashic records books, I find that they’re really filled with a lot of structure and you have to do this before you do this before you do this, before you do this.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (34m 38s):
And he has all these prayers and you know, now there’s nothing wrong with structure. It’s very helpful.

Christine Okezie (34m 44s):
Yep. Lots of systems out there.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (34m 46s):
Yep. And if you feel that you’re very separate from the divine, you might feel that it’s important to do all those prayers and follow one of those systems or whatever. So that you’re doing it, what you feel is the right way. And then you can get to the information. But I was doing this before there was a right way before anybody wrote these books or whatever. So I just go, you know, I just use my intuition and I just get there. And that’s why I say the, you know, regression isn’t necessary anymore, but that could be an exciting process as well, to see a bunch of your past lives yourself through regression. So there’s lots of different ways to go.

Christine Okezie (35m 20s):
Thank you for pointing that out. Yeah. And I think that’s, that’s important because we’re, I think living in a time where, you know, consciousness and paradigms of spirituality are really evolving so rapidly in, in a good way, you know, taking the wisdom of the ancients, but really add in a new frequency for today is what’s coming clear. And there’s a lot of folks out there who are making that distinction like you are, which is, you know, we’ve got lots of good traditional stuff, but you know, it’s kind of like that to, you know, be your own guru, which essentially is a big part of the new spiritual paradigm. Right. And I think you stand for that.

Christine Okezie (36m 2s):
I love that. Yeah. How is your life different now? You you’ve mentioned about 20 years. How is your life different than maybe what you imagined?

Ronnie Ann Ryan (36m 11s):
Well, when things don’t go the way I want, I really try to think about what’s happening here. How can I take a step back and look at this from another perspective or get a higher level of understanding about what’s happening for me? You know, what am I learning? What do I still need to learn? Why isn’t this coming together the way I want, what is good about what is coming together? The way it is? You know? So, you know, I am not perfect in any way, shape or form.

Christine Okezie (36m 44s):
Nope. We’re still breathing and in these bodies, so clearly none of us are awakened Buddhas yet. No,

Ronnie Ann Ryan (36m 50s):
I have plenty of frustrating days and stuff, but I just try to come back to center and breathe in. And remember that I, you know, you know, I learned this, I took a class on Lessing, which is different than affirmation. Beautiful. And so the first day she had us, you know, I bless my body and then I bless my house. And then the next day was I blessed my yard and you know, and I blessed whatever. And then I thought, and really it was about blessing by saying, may you something, it was about you so that you’re not fighting with it internally. I don’t know if you know what I’m talking about. So anyway, I jumped to, may you live in the magic?

Ronnie Ann Ryan (37m 34s):
And every time I say that, I just feel my energy field flood out all around me. And then I feel like everything is okay because the idea of living in the magic and the synchronicities and things coming together easily and in the flow just settles me down in such a positive way. So I, I try to come back to that all the time. Thank you. May you live in the magic,

Christine Okezie (38m 3s):
May live in the magic. Yeah. And, and the power of words, you know, when we hear our own voice sort of stand and what we want to embody, you know? Cause like you said, I feel that I can feel that in my body. When you say, when you say that, that’s

Ronnie Ann Ryan (38m 18s):
Good.

Christine Okezie (38m 19s):
That’s beautiful. Yeah. So if I have to ask you, you know, we’re living in, in really challenging times, I asked this question a lot to folks who work in the space of transformation and mindset and appreciating, you know, listening to a higher wisdom within us to help us. What’s inspiring you now. Like, you know what keeps you hope these days in the face of everything that’s just changing. So crazily.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (38m 49s):
Wow. That’s a big question. Isn’t it? It is

Christine Okezie (38m 51s):
A big question.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (38m 52s):
You know, I don’t know what you think of this, but I don’t watch the news Because there’s nothing I can do about it and it’s not pleasant and it doesn’t make me happy.

Christine Okezie (39m 10s):
This is part of the, of, of the mindset though. Right? So go keep telling why is that important? Why does that matter so much?

Ronnie Ann Ryan (39m 18s):
Why does that matter to me?

Christine Okezie (39m 19s):
Why does it matter so much? Because people say, well, you’re not, you’re not, you, you need to be kept, you need to be informed.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (39m 27s):
And I say, why, why do I need to be informed? You know, I don’t know. Maybe that’s not the best way to go about it. I, I feel right now that if I’m watching the news, I’m going to feel powerless and I don’t want to feel powerless. So I’m not going to watch the news. So, you know, I do vote, My voice does get heard. And sometimes I, you know, write letters to my congressmen or whatever, but I don’t need to, for me, I don’t need to be informed. You know, if something big happens, there’s no way to not hear it. I don’t live in the middle of like Montana on some, you know, ranch that you know, is self-sustaining and has no electricity except for what we generate or whatever. So I don’t have to, you know, I don’t worry about that.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (40m 8s):
I know I’m going to know, people are going to talk about it. It’s going to be on the radio, whatever it is. So, okay. So what gives me help is I just take care of myself. Yes. And I do my best to keep myself elevated. And I look for other people who are like-minded so we can support each other and keeping our energy elevated and the wisdom that, you know, my guides give me, that’s what they say all the time. Just find your joy, spend time being happy because what the heck else are we here for? I mean, we’re going to learn lessons whether we want to or not.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (40m 49s):
So when you’re seeking your happiness, whatever’s going to make your heart sing Your gut.

Christine Okezie (40m 57s):
Yeah. You’re on your path. That’s beautiful. Brilliant. Brilliant. Thank you so much. Oh my gosh. Ronnie, is there anything else maybe, you know, they didn’t know enough to ask anything that you haven’t had chance to share.

Ronnie Ann Ryan (41m 9s):
All right. So you had mentioned that there might be a request for a quote and I did come up with one, but it’s something that I came up with myself. So it’s a Ronnie quote.

Christine Okezie (41m 19s):
Fantastic. Even better. We have a lot of those percolating in the show already, so why not?

Ronnie Ann Ryan (41m 25s):
Okay. All right. So the idea is that when you seek magic, you will find it because you might find it if you’re not looking, but I think you’ll find it a lot more. If you are looking, if you keep your eyes open, if you have an awareness, if you set your expectation that you want to find the magic in the world, you will

Christine Okezie (41m 48s):
Very, very powerful and, and true for me too again. Oh, beautiful. That resonates with me. And it’s, you know, but it’s, it’s a reminder cause you know, we it’s, it’s challenging to stay in that awareness, you know? So thank you for the reminder again, on this show, because always looking for those. So thank you. This has been wonderful. And where can our listeners find you and learn how to start working with you?

Ronnie Ann Ryan (42m 16s):
They can find me on my website, Nevertoolate.biz . TOO forTOO. And because it’s never too late, too late for love or magic. So there you go. And this has been a fabulous conversation. Thank you so much. Really. I greatly appreciate what you do.

Christine Okezie (42m 34s):
My pleasure. Thank you. Pleasure. All right. Take care now.