Ep#092 The Cleanse We All Need More Than Ever – With Emotional Detox Coach, Sherianna Boyle

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Welcome to the Soul Science Nutrition Podcast, where you’ll discover that when it comes to your health, you’re so much more powerful than you’ve been led to believe. And now your host, she’s a holistic nutrition and lifestyle coach, chef author, and Yogi, Christine Okezie.

Christine Okezie (22s):
Hello, and welcome to the Soul science nutrition podcast. I’m Christine Okezie. thanks so much for listening. So the mind body connection is not a philosophy. It’s a biological fact. And while this understanding that our emotions affect our physical health goes back centuries really only in the last 40 years has the study of the links between our brain neurological endocrine and immune systems become mainstream with new interdisciplinary fields, such as psycho neuro immunology and psycho endo neuro immunology. Basically this common sense notion that stress makes us sick has gone so far and wide, and really is at the center now of this explosion of mind, body interventions for stress reduction.

Christine Okezie (1m 10s):
Great. But how do we put this critical perspective, this understanding of what we are and how we’re designed? How do we put that into practice? So we can truly thrive in our bodies? Well, it’s the beginning of the year, and I know detox is at the top of so many people’s lists when it comes to optimizing our health. But how about if we could support our bodies with an emotional detox? How could we release the unprocessed thoughts, feelings, and beliefs that are keeping us weighed down, feeling frustrated and fearful about the future? Well, today’s guest is Sherry Anna Boyle and international emotional detox coach.

Christine Okezie (1m 51s):
And she’s on a mission to get our world feeling again, her motto is “Your emotions matter, Processing them matters more.” Sherrianna Boyle, is the author of nine books, including: “Emotional Detox” and “Emotional Detox for Anxiety, ” which showcases an innovative system for learning how to process your emotions without talking her most recent book, which hits the shelves this month is: “Emotional Detox Now” and has 135 practices using her signature “CLEANSE” method. Sherriannaa has been featured in over 85 articles and a presenter for renowned organizations, such as PESI behavioral and mental health education, Kripalu health and yoga center, 1440 Multiversity university and more.

Christine Okezie (2m 42s):
Sherianna s also the host of the “Emotional Detox Podcast”. You can check her out and all her services at sheriannaboylecom and to dive even further into a special upcoming virtual event. You’ll want to check out Emotional Detox. Now, worldwide summit happening later this month joined Sherianna and over 40 experts where they share their best professional and personal practices for taking care of your emotions. Check out the links in the show notes. So I can’t wait for you to listen in on this insightful conversation. And if you do like it, I’d be grateful if you’d visit apple podcast and give a rating and review. And if you haven’t already hit that subscribe button, please do so.

Christine Okezie (3m 23s):
It helps people find the podcast easier. Thanks so much for listening and enjoy the Sherianna it’s a pleasure to have you here. Thanks so much for being on the Podcast.

Sherianna Boyle (3m 33s):
Thanks for having me.

Christine Okezie (3m 35s):
So I would love to just dive in and find out what put you on the path to do the transformational work that you do.

Sherianna Boyle (3m 43s):
Oh, goodness. Well, I think that I’ve been on the path ever since I was a teenager, to be honest with you, I don’t really ever remember not being on the path. Wow. And maybe that’s a different than most people, but I was raised with a mom that was very spiritual and was kind of pushing self-help books at me and spirituality at a very young age. And I think it was her version of saying, I think I might be screwing up. Here’s some books that could help you

Christine Okezie (4m 19s):
Very direct approach.

Sherianna Boyle (4m 21s):
Exactly. So, I mean, I read Return To Love by Marianne Williamson and I was in my teens and wow. Yeah. Yeah. And then Leo Buscaglia was my first, my first self-help book that she handed me. And so I, I feel like I’ve always been on the path.

Christine Okezie (4m 40s):
That’s amazing. That’s wonderful. And that path took you onto initially through the, you know, the path of psychology and education, right?

Sherianna Boyle (4m 49s):
Yeah. Well, yeah. My mother raised me with this nickname of her little therapist, which I know sounds very unhealthy and then probably was, She just had so much going on with her marriage and then that was a mess. And then her, and then she had boyfriends and we would go for walks and she’d always say, so what do you think? And, and she, and then she praised me and say, you’re so wise, you’re like a little therapist. So I was kind of shaped for this. And yeah, so I’ve always been, like I said, my mother also was part of a group for women that were in abusive situations and she had a hotline.

Sherianna Boyle (5m 42s):
So we had a hotline in the house, amazing people who, you know, whether they’ve been raped or so it was a lot of different things going on kind of crazy now, you know, when I talk about it, but in some ways it was really good for me because I have, I, I really love working with many different people and I, I understand things sometimes on a level that I think I wouldn’t be able to understand had I not had all those experiences.

Christine Okezie (6m 14s):
Absolutely. Thank you. So I love your mantra. You know, I listened to your podcast and it’s just remember your emotions matter. And I say that a lot in your emotions matter, but you add processing matters more. And I love that. So let’s talk about emotional suppression and why, why it’s the root of so much suffering when it comes to all aspects of our wellbeing?

Sherianna Boyle (6m 38s):
So what we’re talking about is emotional detox, and that was something that was of interest to me actually, after I wrote my book, mantras made easy, I had a solid mantra practice for while writing that book. I had actually several solid mantra practices going. And when I completed those practices, that’s when I just got this idea. I said, emotional detox, like, what is that? And I really just got very interested in the whole idea of it. And so when you talk about emotional suppression, I I kind of had to figure out and define what I meant by that. Right? What is an emotional detox? So it’s basically what we do is we don’t clear emotions.

Sherianna Boyle (7m 22s):
We clear reactions and what I’m calling reactions are the ways that we suppress and repress our emotions and then emotional detox. So there’s three emotional detox books. There’s what I call the mama bear the core, which is my story, which is the foundation for what it’s based on that the principles of an emotional detox, the second is emotional detox, Springs, anxiety. And then the third one is the one coming out. I’m sure you and I will talk about very soon, that’s coming out. And, and so really what happens is we, we learn how to clear the ways that we do that, excuse me, the ways we suppress repress, what we feel.

Sherianna Boyle (8m 12s):
And like I said, growing up with an, a family like that, I had, you know, I really was able to see how that worked. Right. I mean, even, even what I mentioned a moment ago, how my mom would say, what do you think? Right. So that was her version of, well, rather than feel what I’m feeling, I’m going to get your advice. Right.

Christine Okezie (8m 32s):
Interesting insight. Okay. Right.

Sherianna Boyle (8m 35s):
And, and always looking to others for reassurance or support or validation rather than feel what she needed to feel. Okay. Okay. Now the way I, and I call it a management system, perhaps learned to manage my emotions that age was to give suggestions and advice and to S and to, you know, and to study and try to be the best to however I could help her in the way that I could help her. Right. So you can see where over time this might develop into a pattern. Yes. And so when we talk about repression and suppression that runs consciously, and it runs unconsciously, it can be obvious and it can be not so obvious now it’s not bad.

Sherianna Boyle (9m 26s):
And what I did, didn’t I always say, if it comes from love, you’re never, you’re never bad or wrong. Right. Yeah. And, and if it came from a space where you truly wanted to help someone, you’re not, it’ll never be wrong for that, but at some point it can become a pattern where now I’m suppressing what I feel. And now I’m just carrying on the same thing and which I did, of course. And, and that, that’s how emotional detox came to be. Because after I wrote, excuse me, mantras made easy. And I dove into the core of the mama, emotional detox. I had the worst trauma, emotionally traumatic experience of my life.

Sherianna Boyle (10m 7s):
So now I’m not just interested, I actually need an emotional detox. Right. And that was the best thing that could’ve ever happened because it no longer was just about me helping other people. Okay. Now I, I was in it and I could see, and even your yoga instructor, I’m a yoga instructor, even, even ways that I would help people professionally, I was able to identify how I might be interfering with emotional processing. So I really carved out a new way of, for me, it was new.

Sherianna Boyle (10m 48s):
And for me, it was the only way that I could really heal, because so much of what we do when we revisit things as we re-traumatize ourselves.

Christine Okezie (10m 60s):
Absolutely. Yeah. It could be a balancing act, you know, as we go inward to do so, you know, with great care in that regard. Absolutely. Yeah. So it’s interesting because the suppression repression, you know, we tend to think more in, on the obvious levels, you know, like distraction, you know, getting, working, overworking, being super busy or denial, you know, putting on a happy face, everything’s fine. You know, all of that. Right. But what I think I love about the nuance of the reason why we might want to explore emotional detox and the system is that it just a good reminder that the way we might be suppressing is a little bit more subtle, you know, it’s, it’s, it’s kinda really below the radar and may not be picked up like, and, and you mentioned, you know, codependency, you know, is a way that we can suppress.

Christine Okezie (11m 51s):
And again, even just codependency is a huge spectrum. Right. Right. I’m just coming into deeper and deeper levels of awareness around that, you know, in my life. And, you know, it’s just fascinating. So please walk us through maybe so it’s cleanse you’re right. It’s an acronym. C L E a N S E.

Sherianna Boyle (12m 10s):
Yes. So, so it is cleanse the reason I came up with cleanse it wasn’t, you know, one would think, oh, that’s a great way to put it all together, wrap it up for people. And it is a great way, but really how it came to be was when you are going through emotional trauma, I’ll call that. Or which many of us have been through in the last couple of years. Right.

Christine Okezie (12m 36s):
All kinds

Sherianna Boyle (12m 37s):
Of levels. Yep. Exactly. So trauma is any time you’re scared, stiff, right. And we’re getting retraumatized all the time. Right. And put it in situations. I just had a phone call with my father last night. And the whole phone call was about his sleepless nights over whether to go to a outdoor party.

Christine Okezie (13m 1s):
I’m having these conversations all the time

Sherianna Boyle (13m 4s):
And I can laugh, but it’s really, I mean, he’s, he’s, in some ways I can just tell by the tone and the way he’s, it’s repetitive and he’s having a hard time letting it go that he’s retraumatizing himself. Right. And, and, and so all of us have been through that. So when I develop cleanse, what happens when you go through trauma or you’re in the fight or flight or freeze response or fixed response is you get brain fog. You can’t think short circuit, you can’t, yeah. You can’t get out of your own way. You can’t remember things, you forget things. I mean, how many of us are forgetting appointments are losing track of emails.

Sherianna Boyle (13m 45s):
And I know we’re all inundated with this stuff, but we do have to take a moment and think to ourselves, well, could it be the fact that I am in this chronic state of non feeling, right. So when we’re not, when we’re suppressing and repressing and reacting, we’re in a state of non feeling. And so that creates wear and tear on you. And one of the things is you have trouble remembering. So I remember being in that state and thinking to myself, if, if this book is going to be good, there’s gotta be an acronym because I can’t remember anything.

Christine Okezie (14m 19s):
I love it.

Sherianna Boyle (14m 23s):
And I literally would go to the grocery store and I parked my car and I’d think to myself, why the hell did I drive here? What am I supposed to get? How many of us have driven home? And we didn’t get right. Didn’t get the thing that we went to the store for. And we, again, we think, oh, my memory, I’m getting old. This, that, well, now I’m just going to challenge everybody to think it could be the fact that you’re just suppressing what you feel as a way of coping with what’s going on.

Christine Okezie (14m 52s):
Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah. Our cup is over, you know, overflowing, not in a good way. Right.

Sherianna Boyle (14m 58s):
So that’s how cleanse came to be with the acronym, because I knew people were going to need to be able to remember the steps. Okay.

Christine Okezie (15m 6s):
Okay. All right. So can you give us an example of you in your work, you talked about when you were in, were triggered when we’re having an experience that you know, is, is causing us to be reactive and you step into that awareness to it. You, you run it through the system. I mean, it’s very, you know, actionable in that regard. Right. So, okay. I’m taking my fear and anxiety and I’m going to run it through the system. Can you give us an example of what that looks like? Yes.

Sherianna Boyle (15m 33s):
So if you’re having well, do you have an example in mind what’s coming up in, in your world or some people, you know,

Christine Okezie (15m 41s):
I think it’s a good example that you brought up. So everybody’s trying to find that new normal these days, you know, is it like last year? No, but is it, what is it, you know, do I go out on it? And there’s a lot of fear around, well, when’s it going to be over? When’s it going to be safe for me, you know, to go to dinner, go to that, live yoga class, you know, all of it. Right. So there’s, we chase our tail. There’s just a lot of that. And we try to think our way out of it. Right. Which can be really daunting these days, if that’s where you’re going to try to figure stuff out, you know, in the analytical world.

Sherianna Boyle (16m 14s):
Right. Right. So in that situation, we’ll just say my father, so, and the fact that he couldn’t sleep, right. He was wrestling with the decision of whether to attend an outdoor party. And, and so, I mean, you could really for, for something, I think probably cause I know my father, he might need a few rounds of running through some

Christine Okezie (16m 37s):
Okay. Right. To know, so this is, this is something that’s iterative, right. It’s not a one and done, it’s not a,

Sherianna Boyle (16m 43s):
It’s not a one and done, you could. So the new book is Emotional Detox Nnow, which has 135 self guided practices. So they’re basically my cleanse. Right. When I say practices on the book, it really means cleanse the 135 cleanses. So what, what I would encourage him to do is start with one. Right. And you might not start with the head honcho. Right. You might not start. I always say, don’t start with the final exam. Right,

Christine Okezie (17m 13s):
Right, right, right, right, right.

Sherianna Boyle (17m 15s):
You got to warm yourself up a little bit. So, so he, you know, I would just pick a cleanse out of the book and I would just something, yeah. Even just randomly land on a cleanse and just get yourself warmed up and comfortable with the idea of allowing yourself to feel your feelings. And then I would recommend, then he can kind of, as you get comfortable, then you could say, okay, this one really feels, these are the ones that are really sticking out to me today and maybe just work with one or two for a good solid week. So that would be maybe one practice a day or two practices a day.

Sherianna Boyle (17m 59s):
So in my father’s case, it would probably, you know, he would start with that, see, which is about clear reactivity in the body. And in the book I offer, there’s probably 50 ways to do that. They’re all mindful in nature. And then the Al is look word. So that’s where he would identify what he feels in regards to this what’s coming up for him and for probably a real fear of loss. Right. I know this is probably triggering some stuff in his childhood, this making this decision because there were family members that were going to the party.

Sherianna Boyle (18m 39s):
And I think there’s probably, that’s why I said this one’s pretty deep. And so may, you know, you would just go through that process of identifying, you know, not attending and the way that makes you feel, or, or on the other hand attending the, the event makes me feel there’s two, there’s two sides of that. And then you would go into the third step, which is the mint, which is a mantra, which I always knew there would be a mantra because I wrote mantras made easy. So I absolutely, that was no doubt in my mind. So then you insert the mantra and as you know, that gives you vibration, like gives you movement.

Sherianna Boyle (19m 20s):
So at this point, we’ve, we’ve cleared reactivity, which means that’s the sea we’ve centered and calm the body. Okay. L we’ve identified the feeling without re traumatizing. Right. Then we go to E which is we add the vibration through mantra, right. Which is through sacred syllables and sounds. And then we go to a, because we have the energy to go to AA now, which is activate, which is now you can imagine something new. Right. And, and, you know, for my dad, I think it would just be the, it really being in a place where he feels whole, where he feels forgiven.

Sherianna Boyle (20m 4s):
Right. Because I’m sure he’s carrying a lot of pressure on himself, maybe some guilt or who knows, but that space of wherever you would go to have that experience of feeling really melty. Right. I mean, when I think of forgiveness, I think of just pure unconditional love, right. I mean, that’s been, open-hearted just that open, unconditional love space where you can collapse and be you and it’s okay. And love you anyway, kind of space. Right. That’s where we want him to go. And then the end is nourish and that’s really deepening that.

Sherianna Boyle (20m 47s):
And there’s a state there’s ways to do that. Now we’re in the age, I’m sorry. Now we’re in the S which is surrender.

Christine Okezie (20m 56s):
Okay.

Sherianna Boyle (20m 58s):
Which is a surrender statement. And I include all sorts of statements for people in their, every, every client has different statements. And then ease is the, I am space because it’s really, that’s who you are. That’s who you’ve always been. We just lose our way.

Christine Okezie (21m 15s):
Thank you so much. So that’s, I love that. I love the gradual sort of step, you know, the evolution of working with our psyche, working with the emotional body. And then ultimately as you bring up the E I’m sorry, the, the at the final stage, which is the E, which is, tell me again, was that

Sherianna Boyle (21m 33s):
It stands for ease, ease, also an embodiment. I mean, think of you’ve embodied the experience. It’s not outside of you. Right. You are it, and you always have been, so that’s the cleanse

Christine Okezie (21m 49s):
Always coming back to almost a remembering of what we really are, is like, I like to say it, you know, and, and that, and from there your whole perspective, your whole mindset, you know, kind of shifts, right? Cause you get kind of get a new pair of glasses right. At that point. Right. And go, oh, okay. Now I can see literally like what’s going on here. So I love that this is beautiful. So what’s a common misunderstanding, you know, this is, there’s a lot of, you know, wonderful, you know, work being done right now because of the times we’re living in around emotions, around trauma, you know, and given all the experience you have and this vast toolkit that you have seen such great results with, what do you like to clear up?

Christine Okezie (22m 31s):
Make sure that people understand when you’re talking about emotions, you know, like working with my emotions.

Sherianna Boyle (22m 38s):
I think the main thing, I’m not sure if it’s a misunderstanding. I think people are open to the idea, but it, it’s kind of a default mechanism in terms of going back to managing what you feel.

Christine Okezie (22m 56s):
Okay. Okay. So talk, tell me more about that. Cause I think we get kind of stuck. Well, is this just psychological? Am I just, you know, like, cause, cause I find in the self-help world and the inner space world, there’s this like balancing act between, you know, coming with this, heart-centered, you know, very embodied approach, which you stand for and kind of making yourself feel like you’re in a project that never ends. And you know, you ever get that with clients like, well I just need to try harder. And if I really wanted it, I could really do it better. How come, you know, how do you neutralize that in this work?

Sherianna Boyle (23m 33s):
Well, those moments are really opportunities to deepen your cleanse. I mean just the idea of trying harder is something you would clear. Right. Beautiful. So that would be your reaction. Your reaction is to try harder, to do better, to think that there is somehow going to be this end, right. The final and that’s right. So it, every moment gives you something. And I, I think we do get a little attached, we think, oh, okay. I, we, we think of ourselves like cleaning out a drawer and once everything’s gone, then now I’ll feel better and I’ll be on my way kind of thing.

Sherianna Boyle (24m 17s):
And yeah. And so that, it’s not that you don’t have things that don’t come up to be cleansed. What ends up happening in my experience in some of the clients I work with is you have deeper, more meaningful relationships and you have relationships that where you can be more of yourself. Right? So your experience with the way that you interact with others in the world change you, you intend to see how the goodness around you more and yeah.

Sherianna Boyle (24m 58s):
And you just become really strong. Yeah. But then again, but again, it’s, it is a practice and here’s the other part of the cleanse that I did not know Christine, when I created it. So I created a system because again, I was in emotional turmoil and it wasn’t just me. It was my whole family and it was my career. It was everything. So for me, I didn’t want to rehash, I did it for a little while. I found a good therapist and we, we talked about things for about six months, but it was like a light bulb for me. I remember being in her office and she got distracted.

Sherianna Boyle (25m 42s):
She had to go check her phone or something. And she had asked a question. And in that moment that’s when something opened up and you know, that often happens when we’re quiet, right. When we’re not talking, right. What ends up here at you? You all of a sudden start hearing your own inner guidance. And that’s what happened to me and what it ended up being was the second step, the cleanse. And I’ll never forget it. As soon as I heard it, I, I laughed. I thanked her. And I said to myself, that’s my last session. I’m never going back, such clarity around that.

Sherianna Boyle (26m 22s):
That’s amazing that we’re complete now. And that’s when cleanse started to channel through. I knew I couldn’t do both. I knew I had to continue to sit quiet and continue to listen and to practice and to play around with it and to see, because again, like you said, it flows naturally one step into next. So that’s how it happened for me. That’s brilliant.

Christine Okezie (26m 49s):
Thank you. Yeah. And you know, it, it’s, it just reinforces kind of a fundamental philosophy that I, I come back to all the time, which is we really do have everything we need within us to bring that wholeness back, you know, and we have, you know, we’re very grateful for the tools and the practices and the guides and the other, you know, way showers. But it’s always nice to come back home to that remem remembering that, oh yeah. Okay. You know, this is something that actually I’m wired for literally, right.

Sherianna Boyle (27m 21s):
Oh, I meant I, this is where I was going with that. I’m sorry. The cleanse I accidentally discovered was the, is the same steps for manifesting

Christine Okezie (27m 34s):
We’re on the same wavelength, because my next question, I said,

Sherianna Boyle (27m 38s):
Oh, there was a point to that.

Christine Okezie (27m 40s):
Yeah. This is brilliant. Literally we’re on the same frequency because I, I definitely picked up on that in your work. And how is it H a toolbox for, or formula, I think you’ve used. How was that formula for manifestation? Walk us through that.

Sherianna Boyle (27m 55s):
Well, so when I was writing it, I was cross-checking and I was being guided to do this. I know, I didn’t think to myself, okay. I gotta make sure I do this, this and this. I was being guided as I’m channeling the cleanse. I checked every single law in the universe

Christine Okezie (28m 15s):
And I made

Sherianna Boyle (28m 15s):
Sure that it was in alignment with every single law. Beautiful. And as I’m in a crisis, cause I’ll call it emotional crisis. And you know, you’re in crisis, particularly when it lasts a long time, just like a pandemic, right. When something goes on for more than six weeks, that’s when we make diagnoses with people, you know, when something’s going on for awhile, that’s when it can lead to a condition. So, so for me, it was, you know, a good many, it was a couple years, but for the crisis part, it was definitely a good year. Okay.

Sherianna Boyle (28m 55s):
Here’s the crazy part. I started manifesting stuff like crazy. I mean my business, my op opportunities and mean things were just happening and they were happening with no effort at all. And I’m thinking I’m a mess. This does not make sense,

Christine Okezie (29m 12s):
But re you really a mess? I guess that’s the question. Right?

Sherianna Boyle (29m 16s):
Well, what I was doing was cleansing. Yeah. I was cleansing and I was surrendering and I was handing over and I was going into that space and it was, I was well-practiced and I was watching things happen and I was thinking to myself, oh my gosh, I used to work so damn hard for all of this,

Christine Okezie (29m 36s):
Trying to make stuff happen.

Sherianna Boyle (29m 38s):
And so now I let people know and, and maybe that’s what will draw you is it’s not just the steps for releasing reactions. It’s the steps for manifesting because you can’t manifest without feeling beautiful.

Christine Okezie (29m 53s):
You can’t all about that. It’s all gotta be, and it’s gotta be the right quote unquote feeling or the right vibration.

Sherianna Boyle (29m 60s):
And it can’t be a controlled feeling because some of us are going to manifesting as another way to manage what we feel.

Christine Okezie (30m 7s):
Here’s another beautiful, like subtlety. I love it. I love the subtlety. Right? Yeah. I listened to a podcast of yours. You interviewed and as a person, you know, from astrology, right? Yeah. And, and you, you really asked a very, you know, insightful question, which is, well, you know, love, astrology thinks it’s, you know, it can be really empowering tool, but you know, do we have to maybe just take a step back and make sure we’re not using it as a tool for emotional suppression. Right. And we do that in the, in the self-help world. I hate that word, by the way, in the, in the personal growth world, there’s a lot of options, you know, that we could distract ourselves to manage our emotions, you know, and not really do the work.

Christine Okezie (30m 49s):
So I think that’s an important distinctions with the cleanse system. So tell us about your new book and like, what, what, so, so can people like, do, should we start with the mama bear book? Where should we, you know what I mean? Is it it’s like three-stage, but w what do people want to get started?

Sherianna Boyle (31m 5s):
We say, it’s what you’re drawn to. Honestly, people love the mama bear because it is, it is my story. And they either love it, or they don’t love it because it can be triggering because it’s one of those books that’s going to make you face your stuff. And some people are not gonna like it. They want some,

Christine Okezie (31m 30s):
They’re not ready.

Sherianna Boyle (31m 31s):
They’re not, they’re not ready. And they want the warm, fuzzy viewpoint. As you can say, see, I just kind of nail things. Are you manifesting to manifest to manage your emotions? Some people aren’t going to like that. They’re going to be like, Ooh, are you lady? Most people got given me really great feedback on it. And that’s the foundation of an emotional detox. If you’re someone suffering from anxiety, then emotional detox for anxiety can, is a great book. It’s based on this definition, that anxiety is an emotion looking to be processed, but cam because we won’t let it.

Christine Okezie (32m 9s):
I love that. Yeah. I read that. What does that, what does that help us understand that? What do you mean by that? Well, the idea is bad. Anxiety’s awful. Who wants to have anxiety? Okay.

Sherianna Boyle (32m 19s):
First of all, I don’t even believe in anxiety anymore in terms of, I think that it is a system in a second, really be a guidance for us. I, you have to ask yourself, are you, do you have anxiety or are you being guided?

Christine Okezie (32m 35s):
What do you need to look at? What is what’s getting what’s needs your,

Sherianna Boyle (32m 39s):
Is something coming up that you’re ignoring and suppressing? Is there something in your gut, your intuition, your core that is screaming at you that you just keep ignoring or pushing away or disregarding. And it could be because you believe, you know, you’re not strong enough. You don’t have a choice, you don’t have support or people won’t like you. I mean, there’s so many ways, again, reactions that you might manage that. But I, and just in terms of my work now, I know there’s imbalances that cause anxiety, you know, physical imbalances with whether they’re hormones and things like that.

Sherianna Boyle (33m 20s):
So I’m not saying that’s the sole reason, but from an emotional detox standpoint, yes, it is. I believe it’s, it’s a sign that there’s an emotion looking to be processed, but can,

Christine Okezie (33m 34s):
It’s a very, it’s a very empowering way to look at anxiety. And quite frankly, any other quote, unquote, you know, difficult emotion, right? It’s obviously our emotions are like, are, you know, energy PS system, right? They’re, they’re like signposts, you know, they’re like, you know, getting our attention and they’re there for a reason. And as you point out and we want to make sure that people, first thing is realized, there’s nothing, there’s no good or bad emotion. It’s just, it’s just energy at the end of the day. Right.

Sherianna Boyle (33m 59s):
Well, you can’t have a symptom without an emotion. You just can’t. And we tend to over-focus on the symptoms. That’s right. And one of the ways that we manage them is we give them names

Christine Okezie (34m 12s):
And we tell stories about them. Right. We have

Sherianna Boyle (34m 14s):
My anxiety, my anxiety, my anxiety. Okay. It’s all yours. Okay.

Christine Okezie (34m 25s):
Okay. Oh my gosh. So, you know, we’re, we’re in a really interesting time as we were talking a little bit for, you know, so, you know, political climate coronavirus, you know, all these things, right. And it’s just heightening the sense of anxiety we’ll stay on this. Right. Can you give us, you know, like what are your favorite strategies, you know, for cultivating more calm, more inner peace during these crazy times?

Sherianna Boyle (34m 54s):
My new book that comes out February 8th, again, has 135 cleanses. So I’m just gonna say, you’re talking about politics right now, correct?

Christine Okezie (35m 4s):
Sure. Let’s go there.

Sherianna Boyle (35m 7s):
So, I mean, an example would be cleansing, cleansing politics. I mean, I, that is, you know, here, I’m just reading from my book right now. I just opened it up. Great. Yes. And there’s cleansing codependent behavior cleansing. When a family member struggling cleansing with power struggles, cleansing miscommunication, nice cleansing political differences, right. This is it’s all in there. Nice. And so people can again take themselves through, in terms of the political environment. I think what could happen if we allow it as to, is to see we’re all collectively looking to go through a transformation right now, it’s almost like we could use a big collective cleanse and there’s, there’s resistance on both sides.

Sherianna Boyle (36m 1s):
I don’t care what side you’re on. There’s resistance. Right? You believe there’s a resistance. That area that would benefit everybody is if they cleared the resistance.

Christine Okezie (36m 14s):
Okay.

Sherianna Boyle (36m 15s):
Right. Resisting unity, resisting resolution, resisting common ground, resisting harmony, it’s happening on both sides.

Christine Okezie (36m 28s):
Yeah. That’s a great way to do it. I love

Sherianna Boyle (36m 30s):
That. And so that’s my, that’s why I say my mission is to get the world feeling again, because I don’t think we should have another, I’m going to say darn darn board meeting or any kind of meeting where people are upset and they’re emotionally reactive. I, if I could have it my way, I’d say everybody could just start your meeting with a cleanse or a grounding technique. You know, Christine, you do all of this and, and Ken don’t have another meeting without grounding people in the room that is not fair. That is a setup for people getting upset and her, and, and walking away, feeling more fueled.

Sherianna Boyle (37m 12s):
Everybody has a part in this. And, and so, I mean, I could get on my little soap box here, but that, that is what I, I, and I am reaching. Some people is if you can just take five, 10 minutes to get grounded and to gather and to acknowledge the feelings. How about that? Yeah,

Christine Okezie (37m 35s):
Yeah.

Sherianna Boyle (37m 36s):
Honor. The feelings, you know, this, I know this is very difficult for people and people are very worried and stressed about themselves, about their loved ones. And I can, you know, just common communication skills, Christine, right.

Christine Okezie (37m 53s):
I don’t, or I say, just get your biology on your side. That’s another term I use, right. Take that five minutes and just breathe, feel your body, you know, come get out of, you know, the thinking, thinking, thinking whatever. And again, you offer hundreds of cleanses and practices that people can apply literally, you know, in the moment. And I always say, you know, and I can tell by the passion in your voice that yes, we want, we get so excited when our clients are practicing and changing their lives. But I think the grander picture or the grander calling, but I share with you is that I want to live in a world where this becomes how we do our, our, our lives, you know, and if we can up, you know, that much more centered, you know, that much more clear in who and what we are.

Christine Okezie (38m 42s):
Well, isn’t that kind of what we’re going for in terms of creating a world, a better world, you know, where, where we’re all kind of finding that common ground, right? So there is a higher calling. I’m getting from all, all the work that you do, but what’s giving you hope right now. You’re really active in the space right now.

Sherianna Boyle (39m 2s):
Honestly, I know this might sound kind of corny, but I, I just have a really beautiful marriage. Honestly, I have a great relationship with my husband and we are so solid in this space in terms of honoring and non-reactivity, that’s taken as you’ll see from the mama bear book. I had to work through that. But I think having, when your relationships in the home have tension, know, this is your, your home needs to be your space where you can kind of let go release, feel accepted. And so that gives me hope.

Sherianna Boyle (39m 43s):
That gives me hope, because I feel resilient. You know, we’re very resilient people. And, and I think just the fact people meeting people like you and, and hearing other people out there who have this calling as well, and these intentions, and I believe in humanity and the human spirit and feeling. So what I’ve learned after writing these three emotional detox books is a reactions will always pull us apart. Okay. Emotions will bring us together.

Christine Okezie (40m 19s):
Reactions will pull us apart. Emotions will bring us together. Wow. That’s really powerful. Thank you. I love that. And so I’d love to, you know, is there any, either so many ways for people to connect with you? Yep. Please share with us. I’ll put everything in the show notes, but please share with us what’s going on with you.

Sherianna Boyle (40m 38s):
I have the book coming out, hallelujah, because it’s been postponed a million times and I think it’s the perfect time for it to be released. Actually, I’m not sure, a hundred percent. I, I’m not sure if the people would have been ready for it. So I do feel that was divinely orchestrated. That is coming out February 8th. You can grab that at any bookstore, Sherry Anna boyle.com and I have a summit. So emotional detox now summit, I have 40 plus speakers at that summit that, that people can join for free. It’s going to be kicking off on Valentine’s day.

Sherianna Boyle (41m 18s):
So that was really fun. And I, as much as I love my cleanse, I do, I am a psychology professor adjunct, and I do believe that good teachers share many perspectives. So you’re going to get my cleanse, but you’re going to get 40 other perspectives, people in their zone, their lane, their expertise on how they handle their emotions.

Christine Okezie (41m 48s):
Excellent. All right. Well, thank you so much for your conversation with this conversation and thanks so much for everything that you do in, in the world.

Sherianna Boyle (41m 55s):
My pleasure. Thank you.